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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 03:08 |
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GeoffR
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One reason I wouldn't charge a battery in a camera, even if I could, is that it is not unknown for Li-Ion batteries to swell as they age and/or during charging. I recently found a Bluetooth headset and decided to charge it, quite quickly the battery swelled and destroyed the casing. A battery doing this in a camera would be a serious problem, it isn't as if you can pull the battery to bits to get it out, if you try it is very likely to catch fire! I am not sure how tightly the battery fits in the Z6 but I don't suppose there is much clearance. I did have a battery become very "snug" in a Nikon compact camera so this isn't theory, it does happen. It is less likely with a new battery but new batteries have been known to catch fire (JAL at Boston). I'd rather lose a battery charger than a camera. Your camera, your choice.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 03:36 |
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chrishamer
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GeoffR wrote:One reason I wouldn't charge a battery in a camera, even if I could, is that it is not unknown for Li-Ion batteries to swell as they age and/or during charging. I recently found a Bluetooth headset and decided to charge it, quite quickly the battery swelled and destroyed the casing. A battery doing this in a camera would be a serious problem, it isn't as if you can pull the battery to bits to get it out, if you try it is very likely to catch fire! That's a fair concern, to be honest, if they do so in the battery grip I'm not too fussed, if it were inside the camera, that'd be crap. That being said, I've never had that happen outside of 'standard' AA/AAA batteries.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 06:10 |
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GeoffR
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Least said about the Z series grip the better! I have a, now expired, Bluetooth headset and a smart phone battery that have both swollen considerably, fortunately the latter isn't in the phone. It may not happen and I hope it doesn't but a Z6 is an expensive item to risk.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 06:35 |
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jk
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GeoffR wrote:Least said about the Z series grip the better! Geoff, Not sure if Nikon will release one but hopefully if you want one that Meike will eventually release one if you want one.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 08:41 |
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GeoffR
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I am currently unconvinced about mirrorless cameras, despite having a 1J5, but even if I were to buy one, the fact that neither the Z6 or Z7 is equipped to use a control grip would make me think twice. If there were to be a Z6/Z7s with suitable contacts and a control grip I might rethink.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 08:51 |
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jk
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You will need to wait for Z8 or Z9 that will probably have these features. I dont think that a battery grip is required for me in extended use as a stills camera. I cant comment on video. A second battery in my pocket is more than enough. But I agree that a vertical shutter is a big miss for vertical shooting. We are moving to a new paradigm in cameras. The old D3, D3S, D3X, D4, in the past were workhorses and are superceded by the new D5, and coming soon D6 but they are now are very much niche products for many users. The newer cameras D500, D800, D810, D850 are hugely popular and sell well. The Z6, Z7 are still new and first generation for FX sized sensors mirrorless cameras. They are very good cameras but are still not matured products like the D3 series, D4 and D5.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 12:36 |
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GeoffR
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jk wrote:You will need to wait for Z8 or Z9 that will probably have these features. I agree that the camera world is changing but there are sufficient models above mine to keep me going for a few years yet. My journey to the D4 probably makes me odd, my first camera was a Praktica LTL around 1973/4. In 1979 I bought an OM1 and over the next 11 years bought, another OM1, an OM2 and two OM4s I had motordrives on the OM4s and a wide range of lenses. I liked the small size of the OM system but Olympus let the whole thing down by discontinuing the battery packs for the motordrives. (Batteries already) Thus in 1990 I was in the market for a new camera system, it needed a 5fps motor drive, spot metering, and AF, there were but two options the Nikon F4s and the Canon EOS1, the Nikon used AA cells so I went Nikon. Subsequently buying another F4s, an F90 and an FM2n, then in 1996 the F5 arrived, I got one of the first ones in the country. I bought another one the next year trading in the F4s bodies and the FM2n. My set-up remained that way until 2003 when I bought a Fuji FinePix S2Pro (a misleading name if ever there was one) Swiftly replaced by a D2H. Having used cameras with a grip for over 20 years by this time the only upgrade path was to stick with the top of the range, D3 x 2 followed by D4 x 2 retaining a D3. I have never really considered the other models in the range. A rather long winded explanation as to why the current Z6/Z7 just won't do from my perspective. They may well be excellent tools but without either a control grip or a built-in grip I won't be buying one let alone replacing my SLRs. I was surprised that the D780 is also produced without contacts for a grip.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 13:00 |
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jk
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I understand your thought process and its evolution. I went from Praktica LLC to Pentax Spotmatic F but couldnt focus with it, moved to Nikkormat FT in 1973 never looked back. FTn, F, F2SB, FM, FE, F3, F301, F501, F601, F801, F801s, D1, D1X, D2X, D70, D80, D90, D3, D3S, D300, D300S, D600, D800, D850, D500, Z7. I still have my F3. Glorious machine.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 3rd, 2020 03:07 |
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GeoffR
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The F3, the camera which a photographic magazine's camera guide described as "Very, very, very, very expensive for what it is". I have never handled one so I can't say much about it. I think the F4 was designed by a security expert, almost every control had a lock and it had lots of controls!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 3rd, 2020 04:26 |
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jk
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GeoffR wrote:The F3, the camera which a photographic magazine's camera guide described as "Very, very, very, very expensive for what it is". I have never handled one so I can't say much about it. I think the F4 was designed by a security expert, almost every control had a lock and it had lots of controls! The F3 is the most solid camera I ever had. I guess the later cameras have AF which some will say are great improvement e.g. F4, F5, F6. I still rate the D3 series as the best Nikons ever.
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