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Posted: Sun Jul 14th, 2013 13:46
 
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This is especially recommended for Fuji x users...

http://www.fujirumors.com/mixed-zone-the-valley-of-ghosts-x-talk-x-reviews-and-iridient-developer/

Haven't tried it yet, but plan to over this weekend...



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Look forward to hearing what you think.

I am using Capture Pro very happily but Lightzone looks like a good alternative.
I especially like the fact that it is Linux, Windows and Mac.



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I played with I last night... Good news and mostly bad news.

It's an excellent converter. Does very good color balance and sharpeninge - excellent.

Bad news. It's some what klunky ( but easy to save presets) and expensive. Worst it only supports a limited number of format - Nikon is not one of the, but Fuji is...go figure.

Off the list :)



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Version 4 of Lightzone is free. It has gone open source which meansit should get a lot more populartity.



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TomOC wrote:
I played with I last night... Good news and mostly bad news.

It's an excellent converter. Does very good color balance and sharpeninge - excellent.

Bad news. It's some what klunky ( but easy to save presets) and expensive. Worst it only supports a limited number of format - Nikon is not one of the, but Fuji is...go figure.

Off the list :)


Thanks for looking out for us Tom....keep on the searching.:thumbsup:



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Eric wrote:
TomOC wrote:/quote]

Thanks for looking out for us Tom....keep on the searching.:thumbsup:


Eric-

I'm sort of fit to be tied over this whole thing. I've upgraded almost every version of PS with grudging attitudes over the increasingly restrictive licesnses and increasing prices with little improvement in the product...though there was always the new ACR codecs that I felt I really had no choice about.

Since I haven't been able to settle on just what I would do without PS, I went ahead and signed up for the $9.99 per month "upgrade." That price is good for one year (and I found out after the fact that it isn't really monthly but an annual committment paid monthly - don't' get me started :-).

In the meantime, I bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Capture One 7. I really have no idea yet if that can replace photoshop altogether. It does not work with all the plugins I have, but some of them work as a standalone, so that may not matter. Phase One says they are open to including plugins but seem to be mainly interested in plugins to work with tethered cameras than for post processing...we'll see.

Meanwhile, there is no question that there are options to PS. None seem to have it all in one package like PS but that may well change in the next year. I feel very little is improved in any way in CC over CS6. The shakey camera removal is a gimmick. The only change that is perhaps addictively useful is the ability to use ACR as a filter from within PS. That is really pretty cool and can be timesaving. The rest is really almost identical to CS6 PS.

So if I can get comfortable with a workflow that is smooth in converting raw either into CS 6 or get used to Capture one, I definitely will not be continuing my subscription to PS. Actually, at $9.99 I probably would but why irritate myself like that. If I can get off the adobe heroin, I will be better off :-)



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I am perfectly comfortable with older versions of PS.
Although I have CS6 on the same computer, I instinctively use CS3 for all my editing. Not sure why??? Probably nothing more than the devil I know.

I am frustrated at the inability to use ACR, which I find acceptable for raw conversion (maybe I am easily pleasd?), when I upgrade camera bodies. But the requirement to buy complete editing software upgrades for the sake of a bolt on converter, I find insidious.

It even encourages me to improve my photography so people won't notice if I shoot it in jpeg.
o.O:lol:









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Eric wrote:
TomOC wrote:/quote]

Thanks for looking out for us Tom....keep on the searching.:thumbsup:


Eric-

I'm sort of fit to be tied over this whole thing. I've upgraded almost every version of PS with grudging attitudes over the increasingly restrictive licesnses and increasing prices with little improvement in the product...though there was always the new ACR codecs that I felt I really had no choice about.

Since I haven't been able to settle on just what I would do without PS, I went ahead and signed up for the $9.99 per month "upgrade." That price is good for one year (and I found out after the fact that it isn't really monthly but an annual committment paid monthly - don't' get me started :-).

In the meantime, I bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Capture One 7. I really have no idea yet if that can replace photoshop altogether. It does not work with all the plugins I have, but some of them work as a standalone, so that may not matter. Phase One says they are open to including plugins but seem to be mainly interested in plugins to work with tethered cameras than for post processing...we'll see.

Meanwhile, there is no question that there are options to PS. None seem to have it all in one package like PS but that may well change in the next year. I feel very little is improved in any way in CC over CS6. The shakey camera removal is a gimmick. The only change that is perhaps addictively useful is the ability to use ACR as a filter from within PS. That is really pretty cool and can be timesaving. The rest is really almost identical to CS6 PS.

So if I can get comfortable with a workflow that is smooth in converting raw either into CS 6 or get used to Capture one, I definitely will not be continuing my subscription to PS. Actually, at $9.99 I probably would but why irritate myself like that. If I can get off the adobe heroin, I will be better off :-)



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TomOC wrote:

In the meantime, I bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Capture One 7. I really have no idea yet if that can replace photoshop altogether. It does not work with all the plugins I have, but some of them work as a standalone, so that may not matter. Phase One says they are open to including plugins but seem to be mainly interested in plugins to work with tethered cameras than for post processing...we'll see.


I also use CPro7 but I dont think that it can work well for end to end workflow without Photoshop.
Even Acorn Editor instead of Photoshop is not sufficient IMHO.

I really think that Adobe have dropped the ball -big time-. ACR could be made to work with any version of Photoshop if they wanted but instead they have got greedy and re1uire you to upgrade the version of Photoshop.
ACR should be a stand alone chargeable product. It might be costed the same as a Photoshop Elements license but at that price they could then afford to reduce the cost of Photoshop by the same amount. But if they charged ACR at half the price of Photoshop Elements they would still make a considerable profit.

Greedy, greedy Adobe and you wonder why PirateBay exists.



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jk wrote:


I also use CPro7 but I dont think that it can work well for end to end workflow without Photoshop.
Even Acorn Editor instead of Photoshop is not sufficient IMHO.

I really think that Adobe have dropped the ball -big time-. ACR could be made to work with any version of Photoshop if they wanted but instead they have got greedy and re1uire you to upgrade the version of Photoshop.
ACR should be a stand alone chargeable product. It might be costed the same as a Photoshop Elements license but at that price they could then afford to reduce the cost of Photoshop by the same amount. But if they charged ACR at half the price of Photoshop Elements they would still make a considerable profit.

Greedy, greedy Adobe and you wonder why PirateBay exists.



Couldn't agree more. Greedy and STUPID...they are trying to squeeze more and more out of a smaller and smaller universe rather than try to win with innovation. And maybe that is all they can do, since they have really lost their way as innovators - they spend more time trying to thwart pirates than improving their software in m opinion.

I've only been using the full version of CApture One for a couple of nights - actually mostly watching some of their terrific tutorials more than "using." I still think that it might work along with OnOne Perfect Photo suite which I have come to really really love (I started using it about 3 months ago and have found that I hardly ever launch NIK plugins now).

What I still object to with Capture One is the catalog concept (though I'm trying to figure out a way to adapt to it) and the sessions concept is even weirder (I learn now that I've bought the software :-). Why in the world don't all of these apps just let you open a file and edit it?????



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jk wrote:


ACR should be a stand alone chargeable product.


Isn't that basically Lightroom?

 

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