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Posted: Fri May 31st, 2013 17:54
 
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I was reading a few of the articles on the June 17 roll out of the Photoshop CC.

I did come up with one slightly ameliorating facet of the offer... If you presently have PS 5 or 6 standard... You must upgrade now to get the $9.99 per month subscription (Photoshop only) ( $120 for the next year ) but that really is a better deal than it might sound like. You not only get the "new and improved" version but that version will include all the features that presently are only in PS extended.

I'm still vehemently opposed to forcing us to subscribe, but just saying... It does have more in it if you had the standard version in the past...



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I think I read that one as well.
It is only cost efficient in the first year. Thereafter the price is $19.95/month or whatever Adobe want to charge.



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That's right, but even so, there is still some advantage for the standard user getting the extended...diminishes over time, but some added value.

I wonder how much this will bring down adobe's revenues.

I think it will have significant impact the first year for sure.



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My understanding is that this is not anti piracy move.

Adobe acknowledge CC can be cracked just as readily as CS was.

They SAY it's to provide a better service but then they would. I can see running CS and CC alongside would be more complex but also rationalising the product lineup does make sense.

For now at least LightRoom and Elements remain outright licences. Perhaps this separation might allow Adobe to enhance them a bit by adding layers and actions? Maybe not...



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Elements 11 has Layers already but now allows the running of Actions but not the editing of them. I am sure there are some small other limitations but more and more Elements seems to be the product of choice for non-professional use.

I think I might renew my Elements 6 license when Elements 12 comes out.



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jk wrote:
I think I might renew my Elements 6 license when Elements 12 comes out.

I think that attitude is typical of most users and probably why Adobe has developed CC!!!

While I have reservations about some of Apple's policies they seem to be able to make billions$ from reasonably priced software and regular updates of software which is every bit as complex as the Adobe suite.



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Robert wrote:
My understanding is that this is not anti piracy move.

Adobe acknowledge CC can be cracked just as readily as CS was.

They SAY it's to provide a better service but then they would. I can see running CS and CC alongside would be more complex but also rationalising the product lineup does make sense.

For now at least LightRoom and Elements remain outright licences. Perhaps this separation might allow Adobe to enhance them a bit by adding layers and actions? Maybe not...


I don't think it matters what adobe says about why they changed...they lie...the reason is to trap you into a stream of revenue whether you want it or not.

If they offered both, there would be no CC.

It is probably a good idea for a couple of thousand really sophisticated graphic designers and a raw deal for everyone else...and adobe will regret it as Capture One, OnOne apps, even ACDsee come on strong with new and better editing apps and adobe falls into a position of irrelevancy !!!!

I believe they had a lock on this market and have blown it. And as a consequence the photo app market is fragmenting and instead of one app like photoshop, we will be using a variety of apps that work together well and each do singular things better than any all-in-one app can or does.

Think about it - Media Pro, Photo Mechanic, Perfect Photo Effects, Photo Tools, Perfect Layers (made in heaven for you LightRoom users), Lyn or Fastone for quick viewing and converting, even NIK (though I suspect that google will kill them) all can work together and pretty much replace Photoshop if you want it to.

I don't want to, but I really really don't like the subscription concept, so I'm going to try it.



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TomOC wrote:
I don't want to, but I really really don't like the subscription concept, so I'm going to try it.


Why?
I dont understand.

I am voting with my wallet. No more Photoshop upgrades.
Lightroom 5 will need to be great.


I have purchased a copy of Acorn Editor for $30. It has all the features I need except Actions and support for Add-ins. They are already considering how to do a similar feature to Actions in Acorn in less than 5 days since I made the request for the functionality. I like!



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I didn't state my intentions clearly at all...I don't like having to use all the other apps exclusively :-) but I am going to try that!

I definitely hate being forced to subscribe to anything!!!!!



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I can't testify for anyone else, but Adobe seems to be the Best editing engine available. Hence, I've subscribed to one year's worth of CC7 to see if I want to continue using this system.

 

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