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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2023 22:16 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:I think what Eric says is right, they are good but not yet great. Iain….after looking more closely at the goldfinch image with Mike (my bird watching buddy) he raised an observation that I missed. He said the tail is too long for a Goldfinch (European or American). He also thought the eye ring was wrong. His comment was “it’s almost a composite of several birds”. This revelation makes me now wonder whether AI is not just grabbing a web picture but actually looking at all sorts of information (paintings, drawings old and new) and creating its interpretation of a Goldfinch. I had wondered if the smudging effect was AI taking a very low res image, then using processing to control ‘scale up artefacts’ on the file to get the large file size Graham got. Thoughts?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2023 09:57 |
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Iain
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Yes he’s right Eric, at first glance I didn’t notice it but looking at it again it seems to have added some extras for a new species of gold finch. 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2023 10:37 |
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63rd Post |
Graham Whistler
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Sent this photo with AI version to Clive, he is photographer friend FRPS and very good with Photoshop has taught it for years, his comments: Thanks for the comparison. Your image is far superior! There’s hope for homo sapiens yet!  Click here to comment on this image. No doubt we’ll be in touch again soon.Best wishes,Clive.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2023 11:32 |
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Eric
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Graham I think that goldfinch image comparison should be included in your presentation to the camera club. It shows clearly how far AI has to improve before it can replace a photographer!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2023 20:29 |
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Iain
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I was thinking the very same thing.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2023 13:21 |
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Graham Whistler
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We are in a villa near Gaillac in South France near the river Tarn for 2 weeks holiday. We travelled down by car and stayed in Pierre Buffiere but had to very quickly remove some cars in new Photoshop AI so that we could park in front of our over-night hotel. Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2023 15:39 |
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67th Post |
chrisbet
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Des voitures qui disparaissent, c'est bien ! Passe de bonnes vacances.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2023 17:11 |
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68th Post |
Eric
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We decided to give France a miss this autumn and take the caravan to God’s Own County for a few days. I also thought it wise to avoid attracting the attention of the Tyke Thrift Police by showing extravagant camera purchases when out of their jurisdiction. So I left my long lenses at home. Well let’s face it, the weather forecast was five days of wind and rain with most activities indoors (getting my moneys worth out of NT and EH subscriptions) so why would I need long lenses? I even wondered if I should just take the iPhone. Pitched the caravan facing a rough pasture. And was greeted by the sight of a lovely barn owl quartering the said pasture. A guy in the next caravan spotted it and was trying to capture images with his Nikon D3200 and 500mm lens. He confessed his inexperience, so I waded in with some help. Myself? I was limited to 100mm. So short of actually bumping into the owl I had no chance of any images of worth. After 2 evening with this owl grabbing half the voles in Yorkshire neither of us had secured anything decent. That’s when I noticed him correcting the focus on the lens barrel after the auto focus acquired beep. Asked why, he said he didn’t think the image was sharp enough. I discovered he hadn’t adjusted the eye piece diopter to his eyes!! By the 3rd night he was getting good static shots when the bird stopped swooping about but was having problems holding the flying bird in view. That’s when the penny dropped…DX 1.4x on 500mm = 700mm and little chance of keeping flying bird in frame. By the 5th night (it rained on the 4th) we had got his hunting pattern sussed so went down the field to a secluded corner and waited. Getting savaged by Yorkshire gnats was a small price to pay for a good shot of a hunting owl. The little feathery b***ard had different ideas and decided to grab the vole 3-4metres in front my caravan!! The wife got a ‘cracking view’ while preparing dinner. This is all I got (massive crop) with 100mm across the other side of the field….  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image. Lots of lessons here….expect the unexpected, take all your lenses, sit and wait for the subject to come closer to you, don’t stand in hedgerow at dusk without mossie protection….leave it to the experts. This is the full frame shot ( at 12,800 iso) to get an idea of the crop quality loss ….  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2023 17:45 |
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69th Post |
Eric
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chrisbet wrote:Des voitures qui disparaissent, c'est bien ! Passe de bonnes vacances. I was going to write my post in Tyke but that would be too weird. My favourite Tike phrase….. “Tintintin” ( which interprets as “It is not in the metal receptacle ” )
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2023 17:49 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:We are in a villa near Gaillac in South France near the river Tarn for 2 weeks holiday. We travelled down by car and stayed in Pierre Buffiere but had to very quickly remove some cars in new Photoshop AI so that we could park in front of our over-night hotel. Was Wendy trying to hail a cab…. before you AIed all them too?
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