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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 10:45 |
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Graham Whistler
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As I said I have been asked to write for RPS Digit Magazine about AI, how close is it getting to photography. I was down in the woods today with a camera or was I on the computer asking AI to generate a high photo quality image of a robin feeding it's young in a wood? Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 11:50 |
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chrisbet
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Since there is no camera/lens data in the EXIF, I guess you were chatting with photoshop AI - looks like it is being fed a poo sack.....
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 12:00 |
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Eric
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The image is certainly photo quality but not photo realistic. The thing that AI cannot get right is ‘natural imperfections’. No bird would have such pristine, manicured, almost plastic moulded looking plumage as that adult Robin…especially given the rigours of foraging for food to feed young. They look more like this….  Click here to comment on this image. Even one’s early in the season have their plumage “unpreened”…  Click here to comment on this image. Perhaps you have to add ….. “with some dishevelled feathers” and “thin, emaciated”…. or other such natural modifiers? I suppose even photographers resist the urge to photograph birds post breeding and during the moult….so in fairness AI may not have any closer examples to reference.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 12:26 |
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chrisbet
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The other "giveaway" is that the parent bird is not gripping the surface with its claws.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 13:28 |
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Eric
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chrisbet wrote:The other "giveaway" is that the parent bird is not gripping the surface with its claws. Not to mention it’s too young to be out of the nest and wouldn’t be out in the open waiting to be fed. It’s a remarkably pristine image….it just doesn’t fit the natural real life behaviour or appearance of the birds. Which, sorry to reiterate, is exactly what AI is getting wrong (at the moment). There’s a world of difference between photo quality and “true to life”.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 15:15 |
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Graham Whistler
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You are both right. it is just too good to be true. I asked for parent Robin feeding a young Robin on an old moss covered log in a wood. High quality photographic quality. It took less than a min to generate, this Microsoft app is getting better by the day or I am learning to use the right words.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 18:03 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:You are both right. it is just too good to be true. I asked for parent Robin feeding a young Robin on an old moss covered log in a wood. High quality photographic quality. It took less than a min to generate, this Microsoft app is getting better by the day or I am learning to use the right words. Graham, what happens if you add into the wording something like “some disturbed feathers” ? On another point…what’s the deadline on your article?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2024 22:02 |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric deadline is no problem as I have more than enough photos and suitable matching AI most of them you have seen. Deadline is early Nov for the article so now it is mostly getting the wording right and all the help I have had from comments from you and other friends is most helpful. You are 100% with: "The image is certainly photo quality but not photo realistic."
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| Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2024 12:04 |
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Eric
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I know Adobe is a US company and everything is bigger in America but Photoshops interpretation of a "green woodpecker in a bird bath" has seriously over stated the size of my bird bath.... Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2024 14:50 |
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chrisbet
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Or it is a very small woodpecker ....
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