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Posted: Tue Aug 13th, 2024 10:55
 
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AI BING again I have been refining my gererative writing skills a bit. Little Owls for a change? 
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That’s not too bad actually. It’s really just the eyes that don’t look totally real. Again too perfect.

Here’s a challenge Graham….

Take your hide photo of a Little Owlet, cut the bird out and paste it in the middle of this Bing image, so it’s sized correctly between the other owlets. Let’s see if the difference is still noticeable. :thumbs:



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Graham Whistler wrote:
AI BING again I have been refining my gererative writing skills a bit. Little Owls for a change? Normal Photo below.

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Those images look much better.  
A little too bright and saturated to be natural in my view but then again many people over sharpen and over saturate.  My preference is for 'normal images' to less brightened in the highlights and less saturated, but Instagram seems to life is bright and saturated even though we know this is artificial.  Maybe the people at IG are on some Timothy Leary special!
No doubt the whole AI stuff will become more normal as it matures and is incorporated as a widget with a set of control sliders.
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Graham, I put your comment about which image is which in bold.
I still prefer your original unless I was buying an owly postcard!



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Friend in BIPP advised me to add wording plus "as photograph taken with a Nikon with 500mm lens". I think it look a boit more like a normal photo now?

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I don’t know if it’s due to the “500mm” request, but to me, much of the bird is blurred. Only the front plane has feather detail. It’s as if the instruction gave an apparent dof of 1/2”.  

As I mentioned on the phone, I applaud your commitment to this challenge and I hope the article you will be writing is well received by readers.  

I don’t believe photographers are at risk or should be concerned with this new technology. More likely graphic illustrators will be the ones either embracing these new methods or holding their heads into retirement/ redundancy.

There will always be a need for the factual recording of an event, location or product in a photograph. 

With respect to this development,  I don’t mind being called a Luddite. 
Were I still working it would be a different matter of course.  In retirement the finished product has no consequence attached to it, only personal satisfaction. I find greater satisfaction going out and about and seeing things that I want to record as seen.



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I actually think the 'less perfect' output in Graham's latest post is more realistic than the kingfishers images.  As Eric has pointed out this image has elements of OOF that look unreal.



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jk wrote:
I actually think the 'less perfect' output in Graham's latest post is more realistic than the kingfishers images.  As Eric has pointed out this image has elements of OOF that look unreal.
It made me wonder whether if Bing would change the  image dof, if Graham put 50mm lens?



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Just been playing with Photoshop AI.

If you preface the description with “Photo realistic…” Photo quality…” or similar, then Firefly gives you a photograph of the subject..IF ITS GOT ONE! 

If it hasn’t got a photo of that …..it starts to graft things onto a photo. if you remove the photo realistic, it seems to start to work with drawings.

If Bing works the same way giving preference to the first part of the description, it might be worth starting your description with that key requirement.



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Basic command...

"Photo realistic male goldfinch sitting on a post"...



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Then add ...."eating seeds"....



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What's wrong here is that Goldfinches don't get a bunch of seeds in one go! So it made this image up.


Substituting seeds for "a peanut in its beak"......



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What's wrong here is Goldfinches can't hold a peanut kernel in their fine beaks.  


Going more bizarre..." a peanut on its head"  or "wearing a blue neck tie" or "feeding a baby parrot with a fish"




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Even with more bizarre commands, it sticks with the photo realistic intro.



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How about photo realistic vulture as president of the USA?



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