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| Posted: Wed Aug 7th, 2024 15:36 |
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Graham Whistler
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Two Kingfishers also slightly reworked to look bit more photographic? Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 7th, 2024 19:14 |
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Eric
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Hmmm. Yes it’s less saturated and more typical of photographic renditions…but it’s still too perfect to be true.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10th, 2024 15:35 |
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Graham Whistler
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Sorry Eric just to wind you up more BING Generated Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10th, 2024 19:13 |
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Eric
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Haha…not winding me up my friend. I just think Bing is effectively creating 19th century fine art illustrations. Admittedly VERY fine and VERY fast…but perfect illustrations. 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10th, 2024 21:25 |
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chrisbet
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I have been pondering about what it is tha makes these images look artificial - I think it is because they look 2D, flat, the feather detail is regular right to the edge of the bird - you would expect the lines of the feathers to get closer as they approach the edge because birds are 3D....
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11th, 2024 10:08 |
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Eric
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chrisbet wrote:I have been pondering about what it is tha makes these images look artificial - I think it is because they look 2D, flat, the feather detail is regular right to the edge of the bird - you would expect the lines of the feathers to get closer as they approach the edge because birds are 3D.... Well observed, Chris. They are similar to the results of decoupage. My wife produces old winter street scenes as Christmas cards and mounts multiple cutouts of the same elements on top of each other….to get a 3d effect that’s missing from the flat prints. Then has to pay extra postage for “fat” cards. 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11th, 2024 11:32 |
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Graham Whistler
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The top images has just been generated with the latest version of Photoshop Beta using exactly the same set of instructions of the image below generated in BING (that you have seen before) I think there is no doubt that BING is far more advanced in generating on a blank canvas. Perhaps Photoshop is not keen to develop this way? PS just tried again but same set of instructions into normal Photoshop with up to date version is much better than Bets PS but middle pix with BING is still the winner.  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11th, 2024 16:52 |
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Eric
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This confirms my own observations that Phshp AI is lacklustre, easily outperformed by Bing in terms of returning a quality image from long, detailed descriptions. I wonder if that’s because they see their AI objective more as “modifying and enhancing our photos” rather than dreaming up images on a white canvas? Phshp AI is good at slickly swopping photographic backgrounds to a basic description, around a pre-masked subject. It does a good job of blending the subject into the background. (Although I wouldn’t say seamlessly, as there are often some edge touch ups required). It has also applied its AI well when it comes to adding intelligent fill as an alternative to manual cloning. Again, fast, effortless and convincing photo manipulation. It starts to fall down when you give it a blank page and add multiple combination criteria to the description. Just querying the Photoshop Beta performance……is that not because the beta has now been superseded by the latest version of Photoshop? Wasn’t the beta the starting point and we are now several revisions/ updates down the road?
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11th, 2024 22:38 |
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Graham Whistler
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I have never tried to generate on a blank canvas with Beta till the above test today also I have not used Photoshop for this since late last year when I just did a few tests. At that time saw no point in taking it any further as my main interest is as Eric states using all the very good Photoshop new AI features to save time and improve the quality of my photography.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12th, 2024 22:57 |
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Graham Whistler
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AI is and perhaps always will be unable to capture reality, that is still firmley in the hands of photography and the person behind and in control of the camera.
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