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| Posted: Mon Aug 5th, 2024 16:19 |
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Graham Whistler
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Who needs a camera now? I have just created these AI images with a few simple commands in AI Photoshop it is amazing how the quality has improved in just 6 months. Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 5th, 2024 18:26 |
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Eric
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Superb creations Graham. You certainly have learnt the secret of the command wording. I would still like to know whether Firefly is using photographs or photorealistic drawings as its main inspiration. My eagle eyed wife said “where is the water?” Not the river, but the residual water on the bird and fish that should be there after exiting the river with its catch. Which I am sure would be present IF the original source was a photograph. My overall feeling is that, as a photo realistic drawing, it is superb. But AI needs to add natural defects. The birds plumage….. the fish scales… the leaves, are all pristine. That’s what make the image unrealistic. I don’t know if you can add to the command “wet dishevelled feathers”, “torn fish scales”, “water droplets on bird and fish”, “bug damage on some leaves”……and if it adds back some natural imperfection realism?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 5th, 2024 20:42 |
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jk
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Graham Whistler wrote:Who needs a camera now? I have just created these AI images with a few simple commands in AI Photoshop it is amazing how the quality has improved in just 6 months. Too artificial for me sorry AI doesnt pass my tests. Images look oversharpened and so unreal.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 5th, 2024 22:25 |
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Graham Whistler
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I agree JK this can easily be turned back with normal Photoshop editing. What Eric said also is the bird would be wet as it had just caught a fish so I will have another go and adjust I am on a steep learning curve. Compare this with the quality of the Goldfinch from AI Photoshop late last year. As you say it is almost too good now. Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2024 09:53 |
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Eric
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Graham Could I suggest trying to replicate one of your excellent kingfisher photos of the bird emerging from water with a fish in its beak. Describing exactly what your photo depicts should??? give a comparable result if AI is as good as you are as an accomplished photographer. Only then would it be worth hanging up your camera in favour of ‘ordering your image from a computer’.  Just think….you could create wonderful landscape images of Southern France and Spain without having to drive there and hire a villa for a fortnight. It would save you a fortune and get you a Yorkshire Thrift Award.  All joking apart, I salute your commitment to the steep learning curve and applaud the results you are achieving. Most commendable. 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2024 10:47 |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric in no less than 5 mins I have done what you wanted. "Kingfisher with fish in beak comming out of water close up with wings half open and lots of splashing water with spring green leaves on trees"  Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2024 10:51 |
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Eric
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In readiness for your eventual success and the resulting sale of your photographic equipment along with cancellation of all travel I have asked AI to create a special Yorkshire Thrift Award....... Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2024 11:33 |
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Eric
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NEWSFLASH. Just had chat with Graham and I have been misunderstanding a significant point. Grahams Kingfisher images were NOT created with Photoshop's AI "Firefly". They were created in Microsoft Bing...the software used by the lady, whose work Graham presented a little earlier in this thread. So he is now a Bing officianado......let's hope he doesn't start to sing White Christmas. What is clear is that Microsoft Bing is waaaaaay ahead of Photoshop, and it's FREE!  It also answers to some extent the question about whether these images are derived from photos. In the case of Adobes offering, Firefly, they actually state they have a massive library of images it uses. Some may be illustrations but a lot are actual stock free photos. These find significant use in replacing photo backgrounds with different photo backgrounds but when it comes to more creative compilations I don't think it's in the same league as BING. I don't know if Bing uses stock photos in the same way or at all? Generally speaking, I still believe AI has got to learn about natural imperfections. All the images seem to be too perfect and it's that very fact that makes them unrealistic (to my eye at least) and as such NOT direct competition for photographs. It's a fascinating area of artistic development. Whether photographers will decide this is the direction they want to go, remains to be seen. Personally I am happy to continue 'seeing things I want to capture' as opposed to 'imagining things I want to create'. ....but I could have done with Bing et al in my graphic design years! It would have saved me hours and hours of Illustrator work. 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2024 17:07 |
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jk
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I prefer the real thing from Graham! The Bing stuff is a pale shadow of reality.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 7th, 2024 11:12 |
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Graham Whistler
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I have now reworked the AI image in Photoshop to make it look far more like normal photography.  Click here to comment on this image. Click here to comment on this image.
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