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| Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2024 14:07 |
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Graham Whistler
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"Curlews in Turner Like Estuary" an other AI image, I am getting the hang of this a bit better now, sorry still not photography. Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2024 14:07 |
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Graham Whistler
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Sorry about above those two took me less than 10mins to create with a few simple words.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2024 15:52 |
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Graham Whistler
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"Storm at sea" AI generated Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2024 17:16 |
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Eric
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It’s all very impressive what can be achieved but the more I see of these images the more I feel it is distancing us all from photography. I see this almost as a new art form, closer to digital illustration than digital photography. I have seen the benefit from ‘replacing’ elements of a photograph…MY OWN photographs. One (or more) step beyond the traditional cloning out of distracting elements or introducing additional elements to better balance the image…..somewhat akin to the artistic licence afforded to a painter, when depicting his version of the landscape in front of him. I disagree with Sally’s assertion that photography won’t be harmed by this new technique. In the long run it will rob up and coming photographers of their ‘seeing eye’. Images will come more from their imagination delegated to a computer to effect. Sure Da Vinci and Michelangelo had their apprentices who prepared much of the canvas for their masters to step in and finish off. I see a similar abdication of ownership with the AI. Origination would be from the photographers written instruction, rather than crafted by his own hand. Our work will be the cheaper for the lack of complete involvement.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 08:11 |
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jk
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Graham, it might be useful for us to see the series of commands that you input to get your image.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 08:22 |
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jk
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As a registered world cynic.... Eric said.. "Our work will be the cheaper for the lack of complete involvement." Is that not what our industrialisation process does? It removes or reduces the highly rated human skill to a point where it can be performed by a machine. This allows for the replacement of expensive humans with cheap machines that can be run 24/7/365. Higher profits for the owner, starvation for the craftspeople. Photography used to be a valued and not inexpensive process that was valued, now every idiot with a smartphone is an expert photographer and videographer!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 10:43 |
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chrisbet
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Thank goodness they haven't found a machine that can ride a horse - the skill on display at the equestrian olympics is worth watching.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 10:49 |
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Graham Whistler
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JK look back to the post last week I have copied the instructions from the RPS magazine "Old Woman Uses AI" She explains how she did it. My image of a "Turner like very rough sea-scape with dramatic sunset, dark clouds, thunder storm and sailing ship!" This took less than 5 mins to create and gererate.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 11:07 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:As a registered world cynic.... Eric said.. "Our work will be the cheaper for the lack of complete involvement." I acknowledge a lot of what you say is true, Mr World Cynic.  To a great extent I share some of those feelings.However a feel a line can be drawn between occupational and recreational tasks. During my several careers I embraced mechanical advantage whenever it came along. I happily accepted auto ‘this and that’ on my recreational cameras as a way to improve the rate of success….even before turning them into occupational tools. The use of computers for digital image manipulation is still within ‘my’ acceptable zone. Were I think AI starts to introduce a divide is the usurping of ownership of the creative result. That may still be ok if your job/career/ living depend on results. However, as someone who no longer seeks financial gain from my photography, I get a greater pleasure in thinking up and effecting the ideas myself. AI may come up with something more stunning and impressive…in a fraction of the time but where’s the sense of achievement in that? NOW…if AI and robotics come together to give me a device to weed my garden, leaving ‘proper’ plants untouched (something Jan reckons I fail to achieve), I would sign up straight away. 
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2024 11:37 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:JK look back to the post last week I have copied the instructions from the RPS magazine "Old Woman Uses AI" She explains how she did it. I thought the seascape was very good….and realistic …apart from perhaps two concurrent lightning strikes (does that happen at sea?). The image reminded me of a painting, I came across at Greenwich Maritime Museum, while doing some genealogical research about an early 1700s ancestor of Jan. He ran a tavern in Westminster and over one Winter a group of Privateers lodged with him squandering their share of the “bouty” from the taking of 2 French ships. We learnt all the details of their “cruise against the enemies of the king” from litigation between the parties. Jans ancestor was granted guardianship over the youngest privateer ….as wait for it…he was under 18 and required a responsible adult to handle his share of the prize. (You couldn’t dream up a dafter scenario than underage pirates needing adult consent on spending their prize). Anyway…the young pirate claimed Jans ancestor stole his money….BUT the whiley innkeeper had an inventory of everything the lad ate, drank and bought …including “ye clothes and trinketts”. So the court ruled the account was fair and ordered Jans ancestor to hand over the £30 residue of his £300guineas prize (work out how much the lad got in 1740 in todays money!!) Mysteriously, Jans ancestor died suddenly the next Summer.  But I digress…..the painting in Greenwich was of the actual battle of the taking of the very two named French ships in which these privateers had been engaged. All of which is a rambling story about nothing of consequence except to my good lady.
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