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| Posted: Sat Mar 2nd, 2024 13:18 |
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Eric
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Eric wrote:Graham Answering my own question: there doesn’t seem to be a way to use your own photos in AI all you can do is replace the existing area using the old fashioned Paste Into command after masking is in place. I did note that you can upload your images when using the Firefly app that comes with the Adobe subscription. They are quite happy for you to donate your images via the app to their database for Firefly to use on other user’s editing. If you did donate your photos, I wonder if you could preface the instructions in the generative fill box with “Graham Whistler’s photo of…..” to get YOUR own image offered? 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 2nd, 2024 22:49 |
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novicius
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I think that the " enemy " of AI are us, ye olde photog, who,looking at a photo might say that something does not look right,and we are a dwindling few. Whereas the younger generation,who are used to TV quality and computer games are more ready to exept what they look at as a good photo. Manipulation could be a problem for Documentary reportage.
____________________ Back in Danmark I do not use my equipment to make photo`s .. I take photo`s to use my equipment The better I become at photography,the better my camera gets. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 07:48 |
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chrisbet
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Lol - they have been manipulating documentary footage for ages - AI just means they can, and have been, using it to hoodwink us even more 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 09:55 |
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Iain
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chrisbet wrote:Lol - they have been manipulating documentary footage for ages - AI just means they can, and have been, using it to hoodwink us even more Yes, manipulating photos started just after photography started.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 13:52 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:Yes, manipulating photos started just after photography started. Certainly by 1901….  Click here to comment on this image. Although no manipulation in our woodland in 2021….  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 14:25 |
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Eric
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I think Novicious was eluding to the understanding that digital manipulation for documentaries and reportage image, certainly was a no no at the start of digital photography. There was a US sports reporter that was sacked because he airbrushed out a person walking in front of a pitch side advertising hoarding. ( whether the advertiser paid him was unclear) That said, I was watching a tv documentary last week about coastal erosion where I was able to say “that’s not been filmed there”. They had cut in a section of footage from another UK location to better emphasise the point. And many wildlife documentaries have cut aways to different occasions and even a different bird…that they were able to capture close up. I suppose it depends how far people are prepared to go to stretch the general understanding …that documentary evidence should be unsullied. There is no doubt with AI it’s a lot easier and more convincing to do what they want….and who is there to argue authenticity anymore. 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 22:47 |
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Graham Whistler
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I think it is still important for us to keep a firm eye on what is going on and I think we have made good progress in understanding a lot about AI on this forum. There is still much more to learn.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 23:23 |
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novicius
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Yes, back in the day, I was shooting in B&W negative and Color with slides. There is No way to Manipulate slides ( it would be Detected right away ). Would I be in the game today, then I would have a camera loaded with color-slide , say take one shot with it and then followed by a series in Digital of the same subject. I would be very careful of Not to be sued or accused by security forces.
____________________ Back in Danmark I do not use my equipment to make photo`s .. I take photo`s to use my equipment The better I become at photography,the better my camera gets. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2024 23:25 |
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novicius
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Eric wrote:I think Novicious was eluding to the understanding that digital manipulation for documentaries and reportage image, certainly was a no no at the start of digital photography. There was a US sports reporter that was sacked because he airbrushed out a person walking in front of a pitch side advertising hoarding. ( whether the advertiser paid him was unclear) Yes, Eric, exactly that,thank You for seeing my point.
____________________ Back in Danmark I do not use my equipment to make photo`s .. I take photo`s to use my equipment The better I become at photography,the better my camera gets. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 4th, 2024 02:27 |
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novicius
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I just want to adress the example of the B&W photo with the fairies, which can hardly be called manipulation but would be considered Creative use of the media. As I understand it, Manipulation can be a blatant lie with grave repercussion as a result, specially when security forces are involved, yes, I do know of an incident where the photog got into a Hefty dispute where he was accused of causing an upset ,when luckily he could produce a color slide . Documentary is about showing what is outthere, nothing more, nothing less.
____________________ Back in Danmark I do not use my equipment to make photo`s .. I take photo`s to use my equipment The better I become at photography,the better my camera gets. |
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