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I like the old original image best by a long way. Eric thanks again for sharing it with us! 

In the 1960 & 70s I did similar jobs using high-quality 16x20 colour prints and cut-out product photos cut out by hand with great care and stuck in place. They are all long lost with most of my photos from when I left Rhodesia in 1975. I also worked with an art director Peter Selby who did very skilled camera-ready artwork with colour prints I made from the photographs he directed with me working camera and lighting etc (the easy bits)  He would also retouch by hand and airbrush on the prints and strip in type and logos etc. How times have changed!



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I have just checked the latest version of Adobe Photoshop as of DEC 2023: 25.3.1 and now Content Credentials can be found: Edit-Preferences-History & Content Credentials there is a fair bit in there including Document Settings (Beta) I have copied info below and there is a link in blue see at the end to click: OVERVIEW

Content Credentials allow creators to attach extra information to their content when they export or download it. By including this information, creators can receive more recognition for their work, connect with others online, and enhance transparency for their audience. To learn more about Content Credentials and why you should consider including them with your work, read the Content Credentials overview.



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Graham Whistler wrote:
I have just checked the latest version of Adobe Photoshop as of DEC 2023: 25.3.1 and now Content Credentials can be found: Edit-Preferences-History & Content Credentials there is a fair bit in there including Document Settings (Beta) I have copied info below and there is a link in blue see at the end to click: OVERVIEW

Content Credentials allow creators to attach extra information to their content when they export or download it. By including this information, creators can receive more recognition for their work, connect with others online, and enhance transparency for their audience. To learn more about Content Credentials and why you should consider including them with your work, read the Content Credentials overview.

Graham, Just discovered you can Enable ContCred. by going to Windows tab in photoshop. ContCred is in the list.

Adobe are suggesting its in the creators interest to enable ContCred ....to protect their work. nothing wrong with that, as its aligned with copyrighting your work.

However, Adobes initiative to push for complete transparency is also stating that they want to show exactly how something was created ie who did what, when and how.

Anyone using AI would be exposed. Again nothing wrong with that, as using AI photos in your artwork becomes YOUR artwork...provided the photos were copyright free or you had permission to use them. So provided Adobe accept their Firefly generated images are totally free to use (privately AND commercially) there's no issue.

No-one really needs to search for Adobes AI footprint if its all use free, unless the recipient of the artwork stipulates it must be ALL the artists own work including components in the process. For example judging a competition.


Also read this on Adobe site.....


Generative AI transparency
Content Credentials indicating the use of generative AI tools will be included with all content generated with Adobe Firefly to help promote transparency around the use of generative AI. In the future, Content Credentials from other Adobe apps will also support indicating that generative AI was used in the creative process.


It suggests that the AI footprint will be there whether you enable ContCred or not.....somewhere.



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Graham, your YouTube link in post#4 is no longer available.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4X47zqGtTE       Hi JK this is my U-Tube link no new bit there since Swiss trip last Feb



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Sorry I must have got the wrong link.
It was a url that you pasted in to show how to do the Photoshop AI stuff.
The error message from YouTube said that the linked data had been removed due to licensing issues.



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Graham Whistler wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Vcc3oJhBk

Follow this link to see how Photoshop now using AI to to compose amazing images!

Yes this is post#4 with the link that doesnt work.

It probably doesnt matter as with each new version of Photoshop the menus change.  I will be glad when they get the product stable again.   I find the differently coloured menu items a distraction.



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jk wrote:
Yes this is post#4 with the link that doesnt work.
I agree Jk



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Content Credentials is now live in the latest version of Photoshop 25.3.1 Here is a simple test the top photo is as shot the second is a screenshot taken after expanding the edges of the photo with the expand crop tool and then using Generative Fill to expand the edges. Is Big Brother watching us now? I did this test in Photoshop Beta version 25.4 but it works the same in the latest version of normal Photoshop as stated. 

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Glad that the Content Credentials is now there.
I have the latest v25.4 so will check it out.
We need to be very aware that it is easy to create an image from almost a dud image by clever AI manipulation.



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