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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 04:11 |
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It wouldn't run the installer for the first beta update to Mojave from High Sierra. When I looked into it briefly I saw a note to the effect that later updates would work on the 5.1 computer but quite frankly I have so much on my plate right now that I really couldn't spare the time to get involved, especially since my current setup is working so well. If the public version of Mojave will install then I will update it but as far as I am concerned High Sierra, 10.13.6 is doing a sterling job and I can't see any NEED to go further. Attachment: Screen Shot 2018-08-31 at 20.55.52.jpg (Downloaded 20 times)
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 04:40 |
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As for the bin design MacPro 6.1, I agree, it's simply a CPU, albeit fast, I don't like the idea of all the external hardware. If done properly it can be neat but you have to do a lot of planning and spend a lot on high end peripherals like external PCIe boxes running through Thunderbolt ports, there is no doubt it will do the business but for what I need the 5.1 is ideal with it all in one box, with some external drives for backup and specific projects, archive etc. For a full, high spec system I would guess at a minimum of £15,000 for the full kit, possibly a lot more. One and a half top Nikkor lenses? ![]() If I came across a MP 5.1 and I had some cash I would get one. I think they are reasonably future proof, as good as anything else about. I don't think I would go to the 6.1 due to the complexity. Even if it meant lagging behind a bit with the software. I am currently assessing the running costs of the 5.1 and peripherals. It's currently running at 49.1% of my total electric usage this year. I have to reduce that, drastically. This is a graph of my usage... Attachment: Screen Shot 2018-09-01 at 10.34.48.jpg (Downloaded 23 times)
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 16:15 |
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Do you leave your MacPro computer on all the time? Does Computer mean compute environment, e.g. computer(s), screens, routers, printers, etc. I guess the MacPro uses a huge part and is less efficient than a MacMini. I tend to use my MacMini i7 server (2012) mostly.
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 18:23 |
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jk wrote:Do you leave your MacPro computer on all the time? Yes I only put it to sleep at night or if I go out shoppin etc. If I am away overnight I turn it off but usually leave the router on, unless I will be away for several days.. I have removed the UPS for now, trying to reduce complicating factors. Had a nasty moment with the UPS, I tried to install a meter before it and a meter after it. Idea being to subtract one from the other which would have told me the loss in the UPS but before I got that far the meter on the UPS output started to smoke... the screen went black and it got VERY hot. I quickly turned things off and removed the meter from the UPS output. I suspect the modified waveform didn't suit the circuitry in the meter. Perhaps along the lines that Geoff warned about with car battery inverters, after all the UPS uses an inverter with a modified sine wave, it's a 1500W APS unit from about 2009 or 10. You can get pure sine wave inverters but they are expensive I think Yes, I have a dedicated 'clean' supply for the computer and all the ancillaries, that is what the graph is based on. I also have the router on the same circuit and that on most of the time unless I am away. I have another meter which only records the MacPro itself. Still evaluating the detailed readings but it obviously is taking the lions share of the usage. I am going to try removing all the spinning drives for a while, see what difference that makes. There are 6 spinning drives and two SSD's I have taken individual reading from my LED screen and the LCD screen, surprisingly there isn't enough difference to get excited about buying a second LED screen to save electric. My i7 Mac mini died on me and my i5 is damaged, I damaged the logic board, I pulled the CD SATA socket off the motherboard. It may still work but I can't summon the enthusiasm to re-assemble it to find out. In fact I can't even remember why I was taking it to bits... I am wondering about getting an Intel iMac just for internet use and turning the MacPro off except when I am processing images. For now I am just evaluating my usage but the computer seems to be the villain. In very rough terms it's using about £200 worth of electric year, which seems a bit excessive. My house is fully fitted with LED room lamps and I cook and heat with gas, rarely have the TV on. I have a G5 iMac but it's no good for the internet because it isn't HTML5 savvy I think. It's stuck in the pre intel era. Main advantage is it will run OS9 software via Rosetta. I have a couple of applications which I still use and work perfectly well on the G5. Slight issue with communicating with the other computer but screen shots work OK.
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Posted: Sun Sep 2nd, 2018 04:07 |
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IPad is your friend. Instant on/off. Almost no electricity use! You knew that anyway. ![]()
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2018 18:57 |
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Robert wrote:It wouldn't run the installer for the first beta update to Mojave from High Sierra. Update: Have d/l latest full Mojave installer 5/9/18 it offers to install then when I start the installation, refuses, stating my graphics card had to be 'Metal' compatible. My current Graphics Card is: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285, 1024 MB I am considering the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, 4096 MB I checked about the 970 GTX card and it seem NVIDIA are sketchy on Metal support. I don't quite understand 'Metal' It seems to be like 'CUDA' but different, I need/want 'Open GL' for Lightroom, which I think the 970 GTX should bring me but I can't understand if it will also make my MacPro 5.1 'Metal' compatible...
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2018 02:19 |
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You mght find this useful. https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2018/6/12/how-do-you-find-mojave-compatible-graphics-cards-for-cheese-grater-apple-mac-pro-51-computers On macOS, Metal supports Intel HD and Iris Graphics from the HD 4000 series or newer, AMD GCN-based GPUs, and Nvidia Kepler-based GPUs or newer. AMD Radeon HD 7000, HD 8000, 200, 300, 400 and 500 series Nvidia - Most GeForce 600 series, most GeForce 700 series, and some GeForce 800M series
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2018 03:58 |
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Thanks JK, that link is extremely useful, explained fully and clearly. Pity about the 'Cheese Grater' reference, never heard that before. I had searched and come up with similar info but it was piecemeal from different sources and confusing, to me at least. It seems my mates NVIDIA 970 GTX may not be the route to Mojave, or GPU processing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2018 10:59 |
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It runs on Windows 7 if the CPU has 64 bit capability.
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