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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 04:43 |
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jk
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Just when you thought it was getting safe to come out of the water.Adobe do it again. https://www.dpreview.com/news/6803937117/adobe-won-t-support-older-operating-systems-with-its-next-major-creative-cloud-update?utm_source=self-desktop&utm_medium=marquee&utm_campaign=traffic_source Thanks goodness I decided to give them the boot. May they rot in hell. For people who are frustrated by Adobe's arrogant attitude I suggest you look at other vendors such as Macphun (SkyLum), Luminar, Aurora; Serif Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer and Affinity Publisher (beta currently); AlienSkin Exposure4X, etc....
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 06:43 |
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Robert
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Steady on JK, your going to have a heart attack!!!  Almost anybody with serious photographic needs is likely to be running a computer with a fairly up to date OS. Therefore not an issue for the majority, don't know anything about Windows but El-Capitan is history in the Mac world. The idea of software running on legacy OS's can only go so far back, the complexity, bloat and snags of trying to achieve that for a limited number of users can't be justified. In my opinion that's why there are so many issues with Windows because they try to make it run-on thousands of different hardware combinations and work with a wide range of software vendors, all with their own ideas. There has to be an OS cut off sometimes, for the benefit of the majority of users. How far back do we go? OS7.6, OS 9.1, or OS10.1? Windows 3.1 anybody? Don't think so! LOL
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 07:53 |
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jk
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Nothing wrong with Snow Leopards! El Capitan is beautiful as I can attest to having been there! Lion is Ok but is I agree a little long in the tooth so is no longer king! I can agree the 64bit place provides much better functionality than a 32bit one. However I would also say that it is not Adobe's place to tell their customers what to do wrt hardware purchase. I think (actually I know) that my MacPro 3.0GHz 8 cores El Capitan outperforms some of the current Apple hardware. I will be carrying it back to UK for use there alongside my MacMini server 2012 which definitely outperforms current hardware! Sorry I just wish Adobe management would concentrate on producing good software instead of coralling customers.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 08:18 |
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Eric
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Not really bothered with keeping up with latest software, be that Adobes offerings or anyone else's...unless it offers clear benefits. Too often these are submerged with a host of inconsequential additions that are a some young software engineers idea of 'wouldn't it be good if'. What does frustrate me is the inclusion of Camera Raw in this restrictive practise. It's surely a minor addition to keep up? The inability to open latest Nikon camera's raw files into older versions of Photoshop is a major annoyance to me....and the reason I won't pay Adobe any more money.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 15:59 |
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jk
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I told Adobe many years ago that if they spun out Adobe Camera RAW they would have more happy customers and bigger profits but they took no notice. I have Adobe CS6 Design Studio with MetaRAW plugin which replaces ACR and goves me RAW support for all the latest cameras. https://thepluginsite.com/products/metaraw/ I cant recommend this plugin more highly.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 16:32 |
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Robert wrote:Steady on JK, your going to have a heart attack!!! Unfortunately Robert my Mac pro is a 3.1 so is maxed out with El-Capitan so I'm knackered and I don't intend buying a new Mac just to run Lightroom and PS.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 16:36 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I told Adobe many years ago that if they spun out Adobe Camera RAW they would have more happy customers and bigger profits but they took no notice. Thanks Will have a look when I get back home from hols. 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 17:41 |
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jk
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Iain wrote:Robert wrote: Yep, you and me too!
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31st, 2018 21:18 |
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Robert
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Oh dear, I didn't know you were on a MacPro Iain and I thought JK was on a high spec 5.1 MacPro.  I thought it was me who was struggling on with old kit. I don't think I can run Mojave so I may have hit the buffers too, the initial beta release refused, although there was some mention of later compatibility for the MacPro 5.1's. I will wait for the final public release before I try again. One saving grace is that the earlier Mac Pro's can take PCIe cards and should run PCIe mounted SSD's directly to the processor, as I described elsewhere. That has transformed my MacPro, it's again responsive and very quick. The PCIe cards are quite cheap and simple, they don't need drivers or any software, they just work. I run two 250 GB SSD's, one with the OS on it, the other with my Lightroom catalogues, previews and my 'recent' image files, currently all my 2018 images and Christophers 2018 images. Putting the Lightroom 'lrcat' files on the SSD was a real winner, it transformed Lightroom. Previously I was scrolling through images in library mode and the beach ball would pop up way too frequently, far too slow for comfort. After transferring the Lightroom 'lrcat' and preview files to the SSD I could wiz through a full year of images as fast as I could scroll them through, with no beach balls at all in Library mode. My Mp boots in about 25 seconds, from gong to sign in. Up to the gong the startup checks are taking place, the actual loading of the OS doesn't start until after the gong. Looking on the bright side the current functionality of Lightroom and Photoshop are pretty good. I think Adobe are concentrating on playing catch up with the cloud version of Lr. I do find the 'Auto' adjustments in Lr are a great time saver to a starting point for individual adjustments. The Lr geometry feature almost gives view camera functionality geometry wise. Even more so if you need barrel or pincushion adjustment, what strikes me about that feature is that it's so accessible, we have the same functionality in Ps but it's not as easy to use. Probably more powerful but for a quick geometry adjustment the Lr version wins for me.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2018 03:23 |
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jk
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So your upped 5,1 wont run Mojave? That is a good reason for me not to try to up my 3,1 to 5,1 So it looks that I need to examine what Apple has for a replacement. I really think the new MacPro 'dustbin style' is not a great design for a computer but what I call token iconography. The latest MacPro has no internal disk expansion so everything is hung outside. I have that with a MacMini which I use now more than my MacPro and I hate the spaghetti and on/off switches for all the disks. I hae to say this but I might end up with a Windows hardware running as a Linux server that is network linked to my Macs. We seem to be reducing choice at present rather than offering greater choice in so many things.
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