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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2012 14:04 |
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Doug wrote: Everyone is different in their needs and expectations so I'd have to see your existing workflow to work out where and how Lightroom would benefit you, but I'm sure it can (I have one client who imports jobs into Lightroom, works on them and pushes through to Photoshop for further editing, then removes from Lightroom before the cycle starts again) TomOC wrote: Doug- Yes, Doug, I do all of the above - most of it in ACR, then Photoshop where I have a great collection of plugins (many would work in LR, I think) where I make most of my edits; I then save and sharpen either with NIK sharpener or PhotoTools edge sharpener and print (I like to sharpen for each print size and not save the sharpened file). If I were just opening a saved file to change the format (PSD being my main format), I can see where an app like LR would be great - one step to find file and open and save rather than find in bridge, open in PS and save. Rich, my total catalog has about 130,000 images and when I tested LR, it seemed that would create a catalog of almost 100gb (not a strain for my desktop, but kills my macbook pro). I have those files in a Media Pro catalog of about 1.6gb and save it to DropBox so it is always up to date on both machines and doesn't kill the MBP by filling the SDD (only 256 gb). That problem might be solved if I snag a new MBP before they quit making the 17" ones (as rumored), but till then, I simply cannot put a file that large on my MBP. That all said, it looks like I can buy a copy of LR 4 for $99 if I buy CS6 at the same time and I think I'll give it a go just because you guys feel so strongly that it is worthwhile - god knows I often miss thing  Cheers, Tom
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2012 16:12 |
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jk
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I use LR for my cataloguing on Mac but I have also tried Media Pro and found it slower than LR but probably less customizable. All these pale into insignificance when compared to iMatch which only runs unfortunately on Windows. This is definitely the fastest and best image management tool I have come across.
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2012 16:34 |
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TomOC
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jk wrote:I use LR for my cataloguing on Mac but I have also tried Media Pro and found it slower than LR but probably less customizable. JK- Not to quibble because I loved iMatch, but simple searches are SO much faster with Image Pro (complex ones much slower). If you do a simple search in the upper right "search" window, using any word or phrase that can be found in either the file name or the keywords, it will return an instant set of results. You can't use boolean phrases, the actual words must be in the file name or keywords, but it is truly instant. Tom
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2012 19:29 |
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Doug
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TomOC wrote:my total catalog has about 130,000 images and when I tested LR, it seemed that would create a catalog of almost 100gb (not a strain for my desktop, but kills my macbook pro). I have those files in a Media Pro catalog of about 1.6gb and save it to DropBox so it is always up to date on both machines and doesn't kill the MBP by filling the SDD (only 256 gb). That problem might be solved if I snag a new MBP before they quit making the 17" ones (as rumored), but till then, I simply cannot put a file that large on my MBP. Tom. I think you might like to sit up  I think you have completely misunderstood how LR should work (you have also highlighted one of the major reasons I prefer it over Aperture and iPhoto - although Aperture and iPhoto can both be made to behave in the way described below) I have a catalog with well over 100,000 images I am working on for a client The 'Preview.lrdata' file is 3.9GB (this file stays on your computer as it can easily be rebuilt on any machine in use and doesn't need to be the same or sync) (my own Preview.lrdata file is 5.9GB for 25,000 images - larger because the inlaws were just here and lightroom has busily built a bunch of previews to speed browsing as we searched through for family photos) The 'Lightroom Catalog.lrcat' file is 1.1GB (my own is 385MB) (this file could be the same on all machines, can't be launched from a network drive, can probably be launched from dropbox since there is a local file - but this location should not be used for lrcat backups (described below) I have usually maintained a single file on an external drive (which also contains my images) that can move from Mac to Mac Thats it - the main part of the burden LR places on your hard drive Of course LR does create a backup of the lrcat file on a regular basis in case you ever experience a corruption of your catalog and the older backups should periodically be swept away I think (when importing to Lightroom) you must've clicked 'copy' at the top centre of the import window when you should have clicked 'add' 'add' does not touch or duplicate the file but merely access them in their current location As for searching - LR has it's faults (can't sort by size etc), but it is a powerful and robust catalog system that makes search easy (especially when you start to use smart albums)
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2012 19:45 |
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richw
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I've just checked my LR4 cat. I have 63,5000 images on my NAS, and 6,500 on my MBP hard drive. The catalogue is 748Mb. Most of the images are DNG (sorry JK) but with a few thousand PSD thrown in also. They are about 20% D70, 50% D200 and 30% D3. The Fuji hardly has a foothold yet! I think the size of your previous catalogue may be because you had previews maintained for the whole thing? You can control this in preferences, it will render previews upon import by default, so if you imported all your images initially and rendered previews at that point it could well result in a very large file. Edit: Doug posted whilst I was writing, but do check the preview settings.
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| Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 00:52 |
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Robert
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Doug wrote:I think you have completely misunderstood how LR should work Didn't you mean iPhoto Doug? I think you can edit your own post...
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| Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 05:08 |
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jk
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richw wrote: I've just checked my LR4 cat. I have 63,5000 images on my NAS, and 6,500 on my MBP hard drive. The catalogue is 748Mb. Most of the images are DNG (sorry JK) but with a few thousand PSD thrown in also. They are about 20% D70, 50% D200 and 30% D3. The Fuji hardly has a foothold yet!I really do need to come to Australia. You are getting in bad habits! I think the size of your previous catalogue may be because you had previews maintained for the whole thing? You can control this in preferences, it will render previews upon import by default, so if you imported all your images initially and rendered previews at that point it could well result in a very large file. Edit: Doug posted whilst I was writing, but do check the preview settings Yes if you keep previews in the catalog then it does bloat it hugely. However it is a pain waiting for them to generate as well. Always swings and roundabouts. 
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| Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 05:18 |
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Doug
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Robert wrote:Doug wrote: Oops (fixed)
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| Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 05:40 |
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jk
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Doug wrote:I think (when importing to Lightroom) you must've clicked 'copy' at the top centre of the import window when you should have clicked 'add' 'add' does not touch or duplicate the file but merely access them in their current location As for searching - LR has it's faults (can't sort by size etc), but it is a powerful and robust catalog system that makes search easy (especially when you start to use smart albums) Yes that is a killer if you click the Add button. I really hate having that button there but its just the way I work I'm sure there are some people who prefer it that way. I prefer to do my own housekeeping!!
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| Posted: Mon May 7th, 2012 01:27 |
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TomOC
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OK - I rose to the bait just downloaded LR4 (got it for $85 using my NAPP 15% discount and preordering CS6 at the same time. So... am I losing it or did someone mention in an earlier post that there was some workaround to use LR to convert RAW from the xpro-1 ??? I'll be driving all day tomorrow, so the first shot I have at playing with LR is mid week. Thanks for pushing me to learn new things and not be so damn stubbon ! cheers tom
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