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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2012 03:01 |
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jk
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Doug, ifyou were twisting my arm to do this I would use the method I initially suggested. Everyone arrives in a reasonable state so photos are best taken at the arrival point. If you put up a room plan or entry hall plan that I could mark up then I could suggest better.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 20:39 |
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Doug
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richw wrote:I'd probably use my D3s.... The best camera available was my D200 jk wrote: Take the photos as people entry the room by making then go down a red carpet just like they do at the Oscars. The area for shooting is evenly and well lit. How does this satisfy the brief 'hundreds of people enjoying a function. The task is to record the event taking shots of individuals, couples and groups' jk wrote: Doug, ifyou were twisting my arm to do this I would use the method I initially suggested. The job is already done to a very satisfactory standard and only 1 hour plus 30 minutes in post required. I was curious to see how others might approach the challenge - room plan is irrelevant. All necessary info was provided. It is an event where people are in the room enjoying their evening and need to be recorded while doing so. This is the room (the lightest half of it) 800 ISO 1/13 f4  These shots are straight out of the camera with no tweaking 800 ISO 1/60 f4  800 ISO 1/13 f4 (1/13 was a mistake - I forget to set back to 1/60 after shooting the room overview shots)  My post was intended to draw you guys out and see if anyone else felt comfortable and had a reliable technique in such a challenging situation, but the answers worry me with most seeming quite happy to turn away work or point and shoot offering nil advantage over the mwac (mom with a camera) who will do it for next to nothing richw wrote: My first stop here given the stingy client would be auto correct, and often that would be enough. The image below shows what auto correct produces - right side (compared to the perfectly well exposed image that skill permits us to achieve straight from the camera) Note the overexposed highlights to the ears and forehead, the overexposed hand on the shoulder, the graininess that has appeared in the background all of which vie for the viewers attention  Btw. What would you guys quote to turn up and spend a single hour working the room? What about if you are working for another photographer? What would your part of the fee be then and would/could you refuse on the basis that it doesn't pay enough? What if you were paying another photographer to shoot this for you - what would you pay him/her? Dollar amounts please - I'm very curious
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 02:50 |
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richw
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You've quoted me out of context Doug, the first thing I said I'd do is a quick slide show and label red anything requiring adjustment and then filter on this to select those that did need it. In the case shown your original clearly did not need editing. I also believe that the technique I described with the camera would produce suitable results on the D3s, on my D200 I'd not push the ISO so far. You have produced some great images, but I believe what I described would also have got some good images, and I am a firm believer in KISS. I'm not a pro and have never taken a paying photo gig in my life, but having been drawn into your thread because you seemed to wish for a reply I have to say the Mum with camera response is a little hurtful. Having said that one mum with camera that I know is a full time photographer for the SMH, and very well published and awarded so I guess it would depend on the mum.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 08:47 |
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Doug
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richw wrote:You've quoted me out of context Doug, the first thing I said I'd do is a quick slide show and label red anything requiring adjustment and then filter on this to select those that did need it. In the case shown your original clearly did not need editing. On re-reading I agree. My original challenge though, was for the post production to require zero effort with editing only to consist of the first part you describe without need for further filtering to 'fix' failures BTW I couldn't always shoot like this and in the film days I would shoot negative for the latitude using far less forgiving slide film only when the luxury of a light meter was available. In the early days of digital I used the 'take a shot take a look technique' (The adjustments that you are undertaking after the shoot were at that time performed by the minilab operator producing my proofs) It is only in the last couple of years that I have become really comfortable with getting it right in camera even when using flash and wondered if anyone else had achieved the same level of confidence. richw wrote: I also believe that the technique I described with the camera would produce suitable results on the D3s, on my D200 I'd not push the ISO so far. You have produced some great images, but I believe what I described would also have got some good images, and I am a firm believer in KISS. KISS is fine, but I believe that leaving with complete and final images on the card is simpler than even minor corrections later richw wrote: I'm not a pro and have never taken a paying photo gig in my life, but having been drawn into your thread because you seemed to wish for a reply I have to say the Mum with camera response is a little hurtful.I'm not sure why this was hurtful. Do you fit the criteria?  :rasper:MWAC - Definitionrichw wrote: Having said that one mum with camera that I know is a full time photographer for the SMH, and very well published and awarded so I guess it would depend on the mum.Agreed. I know several good photographers who are Mum's, but they are not MWACs. An MWAC is not burdened by the need to make a profit or the understanding of what it means to undermine someone else's livelihood.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 10:06 |
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jk
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Think I would pass and ask for an invitation to the wine tasting. Which vineyard Doug?.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 10:08 |
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jk
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MUM Mum ??
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 10:42 |
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Robert
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Mom? :popcorn: Who Spilt the red in Post 12? 
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2012 10:57 |
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Doug
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jk wrote:Think I would pass and ask for an invitation to the wine tasting. I think there were about 700 wines from across the country Since it was part of the 'Shiraz Challenge' I guess they were all Shiraz Robert wrote: Mom? I don't know, but it ruined the shot
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