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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 09:08
 
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Another challenge - this one to see how you control your flash and avoid monotonous exposure adjustments in post production.

The situation:

A large room with hundreds of people enjoying a function.
The task is to record this event taking shots of individuals, couples and groups
Available light is high, harsh and weak (tungsten)
To shoot with the available (unflattering) light would require 1/15, ISO 800 and f2.8 (at one end of the room with even less light at the other end).

Even with a D3 that can shoot at high ISO without flash the high harsh light source creates horrible unflattering shadows which must be suppressed

Additional lighting is a must. Lots of alcohol is being consumed and you have an hour before people (and the room) start to look the worse for wear.
You must deliver at least 80 different images after unsatisfactory poses are deleted
(i.e. images only get deleted for aesthetic rather than technical reasons)

The fee is low, environment challenging and expectations from the client are high.

How do you ensure that your exposure is such that zero effort is required to correct images to a satisfactory standard?

[Aargh - hotSHOE - stupid autocorrect] Sorted Doug. ;-)



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No takers, surely this is not that much of a challenge?



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Take the photos as people entry the room by making then go down a red carpet just like they do at the Oscars. The area for shooting is evenly and well lit.



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Doug wrote:


The fee is low, environment challenging and expectations from the client are high.



This sentence provides the answer for me - I wouldn't!

 




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However, if I had to (major blackmail would be required) I'd probably use my D3s, a really right stuff flash bracket, pump the ISO to 1600 and use my SB800 with extra battery pack attached and diffuser in place and shoot away using TTL in Apeture priority with the 24-70mm f2.8 wide open for individual portraits or at f5.6 to f8 for groups.

I reckon that would get the job done.

 




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richw wrote:
Doug wrote:


The fee is low, environment challenging and expectations from the client are high.



This sentence provide the answer for me - I wouldn't!


And possibly the reason you haven't been inundated with replies Doug. I lost interest at that point too.

Low fee and high client expectations don't make good bedfellows.



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richw wrote:
Doug wrote:


The fee is low, environment challenging and expectations from the client are high.



This sentence provides the answer for me - I wouldn't!


That was definitely my first thought. If it dont pay well then it doesnt pay well enough to risk upsetting a client.



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richw wrote:
Doug wrote:


The fee is low, environment challenging and expectations from the client are high.



This sentence provides the answer for me - I wouldn't!


That was definitely my first thought. If it dont pay well then it doesnt pay well enough to risk upsetting a client.



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Ok. let me rephrase.
It pays well enough provided you spend an hour shooting and no more than 30 minutes in post production (lets say this would work out to $400/hour)

1 hour shooting plus 2 Hours in post brings it down to only $200/hour

Anyway, the challenge wasn't 'would you shoot it' but 'HOW would you shoot it'?

Rich. In your experience does the approach you have suggested provide results that don't require each file to then be tweaked by inconsistent amounts?



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Doug wrote:
Ok. let me rephrase.
It pays well enough provided you spend an hour shooting and no more than 30 minutes in post production (lets say this would work out to $400/hour)

1 hour shooting plus 2 Hours in post brings it down to only $200/hour

Anyway, the challenge wasn't 'would you shoot it' but 'HOW would you shoot it'?

Rich. In your experience does the approach you have suggested provide results that don't require each file to then be tweaked by inconsistent amounts?


Honestly Doug I tweak everything! :thumbsup:

I would expect the majority to be OK and would probably find batches taken in a similar area that all required similar tweaking. For this type of job I'd load all into Lightroom and apply the portrait camera calibration with a slight vignette and sharpening on the way in (I have a preset for this). I'd also rename with something suitable at the import and apply a couple of keywords here to identify the job.

I'd expecting most to be OK with just this, however I'd run through a quick slide show (select all then Cmd + Return) and then use the ''X' key to flag those for deletion, and hitting '6' to flag anything that needs further work with a red label.

I'd then delete the rejected and filter the red.

My first stop here given the stingy client would be auto correct, and often that would be enough. If there are a batch in very weird lighting where this all has still not combined for a usable photo I'd adjust one to taste (and I can do this very quickly these days) and use synch settings on it's neighbors.

All in all I'd not expect it to take too long and I believe the camera would produce pretty good results with the flash as a starting point.

I'd then use Lightroom to do the output, whether that be to a CD/DVD/Thumb drive as a Jpg or to a printer.

Given the low fee Photoshop would not get opened! (Unless there was a shot in there I liked for personal reasons).

 

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