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Posted: Fri Jun 29th, 2012 03:27
 
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Glad that we have managed to get to the root of the problem.
Personally I tend to shoot with VR lenses but treat them as ordinary lenses. That way I dont have any excessive expectations.



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jk wrote: Glad that we have managed to get to the root of the problem.
Personally I tend to shoot with VR lenses but treat them as ordinary lenses. That way I dont have any excessive expectations.


Likewise JK, I am sure it has it's uses, and when used along with good technique, I am sure it extends the range for hand holdability..

But the results can and will vary..

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Good technique combined with continuous shooting can be nearly as effective (shoot half a dozen and only keep the sharpest)



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Doug wrote:
Good technique combined with continuous shooting can be nearly as effective (shoot half a dozen and only keep the sharpest)

Sharpest or sharp ones? :rofl:
Some bad days they are all unsharp.

Then again why would I think that I can hand hold a D3S with Nikon 300 f2.8 and shoot at 1/125 at f4 at ISO 3200 and get sharp images of fast moving dancers.

However some days I do get a series of sharp images.

Just proves we are also the variable in the equation!



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Hello everybody

This has been a good exercise and experiment in learning VR !

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Well I only recently acquired my first VR lens, an 18-105mm f4-5.6 DX. I am far from convinced of the magic of VR. I haven't bothered (or had time) to do any tests with it yet, such is my enthusiasm for the feature.

I did use it for the Queens Jubilee beacons but I was very disappointed by the result's, the nearest beacon was about 5 miles away but despite holding the camera against a concrete signpost and taking perhaps ten exposures, not one was really sharp. Wen I got home I discovered the VR wasn't turned on... :doh: Silly old fool!

I will post the results, hopefully this weekend? Can all have a good laugh...
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I don't find the combination of the D3100 and my 18-105 lens particularly pleasing from a sharpness point of view even in good light. I am tending to use the D3100 with the 18-105 for snapshots in a casual way with little or no thought for technique.

I usually use a much higher ISO with the D3100, 400, 800 or even 1600 occasionally, mostly to cope with the slower lens and to be able to keep a reasonable shutter speed.

My 'work' camera is a D200 usually with a fast, manual focus, non zoom lens attached. The D200 is usually on a tripod or monopod, with an f 2.8 non zoom stopped to between f4 and f8. I rarely use anything other than ISO 200 with the D200. Sharpness (or lack of it) seems to be less of a problem with this combo, despite the manual focus.


I am very surprised at the suggestions that sharp images can regularly result with a 200mm lens hand held at 1/60 Sec, even with VR. 1/500 Sec would be my choice, or a (solid) tripod.



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Robert wrote:
I am very surprised at the suggestions that sharp images can regularly result with a 200mm lens hand held at 1/60 Sec, even with VR. 1/500 Sec would be my choice, or a (solid) tripod.

I set out to prove you wrong Robert....and failed miserably :rofl:


I had to search long and hard for an example taken at 200mm with slow shutter speed. It seems that either the lighting or my instinct to use faster shutter speeds have conspired to present no examples.......except one!

I am not sure if this can show anything given the downsampling for the website but this one was taken at 1/50th. (the right side is the ex camera original and the left has been sharpened a tad).


Compared to other shots taken on the same day in better lighting (so shutter speeds faster than 1/300th) this one DOES look softer.

So I am coming to the opinion, that you are right (oh that hurts!) and even with VR you can see a difference between 1/60th and 1/300th.

Of course the monkey could have twitched as I took it?  :rofl:






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