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Posted: Fri Aug 16th, 2019 09:33
 
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After my foray with the sigma 1.4 tc which I returned I went back to plan B and early this week bought a Nikon 300mm AF-S. ED lens .arrived in super condition unmarked looking brand new , tried it out in the garden and the close images were spot on .. however I took it to the beach later that day and found I couldn't focus on birds heading towards me .checked it out the following morning on static subjects and the AF was juddering badly not locking on to anything .contacted camera jungle and it's now been picked up for a full refund .. 
    I then started browsing e.bay and bought one of the Nikon AF .d 28-105 lenses .. which has a macro facility at the long end .. tried a few test shots when it turned up this  morning . And so far quiet impressed no VR on these 1999 lenses but the images are sharp and crisp with lovely colour rendition .. plus compared to today's plastic fantastics  these Japanese made lenses feel right . Might even get out if the weather eventually clears

 




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Learn the lesson, buy from a reputable dealer or accept the risk.

 




Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 02:42
 
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But I did buy from a reputable dealer Geoff , camera jungle which is part of jessops , the lens LOOKED 100% and the problems did not show up till I tried b.i.f .. it arrived promptly ,they picked it up again the next morning after requesting a return .. cannot fault them in any way ..
     I think it's more down to sellers part exchanging items they know to be faulty to be honest .

 




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And what will happen to the lens?

Some dealers have a 'back door' where substandard, slightly faulty, less than perfect or overstocked items find their way onto eBay, or some such outlet. Eventually it will get sold to somebody who doesn't mind the issue or can't be bothered to return it.  I don't anticipate it will be crushed.

It happens all the time with cars, although many more are being crushed nowadays simply for minor issues which could be fixed easily, which is bad for the environment and exceedingly wasteful of resources.



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It is the old addage..... caveat emptor!



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I think it has to do with the desire to get a lot for a little.  It's a gamble, sometime you win, sometimes you loose.  You can stack the odds in your favour by knowing what you are looking at, after all, some users reject brand new lenses which are just slightly 'off', they may try several before they get one which they find acceptable.  Those rejected lenses may be perfectly OK for another user...

People who would never do the lottery or bet on horses, yet they may buy second hand lenses in the hope they get a bargain, I know I do.  I have had some lenses which were to my eyes, rubbish, poor contrast or vignetting, sticking aperture blades, etc. I have also had some absolute gems, my 55 and 105 f/4.0 Micros, my 300 f/2.8, it may look old and shabby but the images it produces are, to me at least, wonderful.



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Like this latest 28-105mm D .. I was impressed with the i.q from the 60mm macro so this was a logical choice being the same series / timeframe .. used it in anger this morning and I have to admit I'm very impressed .. my gut feeling is Nikon have gone slightly off course by moving to the all plastic VR lenses that prevail these days

 




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two dragon fly shots now posted in the insects section

 




Posted: Sun Aug 18th, 2019 09:12
 
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blackfox wrote:
But I did buy from a reputable dealer Geoff , camera jungle which is part of jessops , the lens LOOKED 100% and the problems did not show up till I tried b.i.f .. it arrived promptly ,they picked it up again the next morning after requesting a return .. cannot fault them in any way ..
     I think it's more down to sellers part exchanging items they know to be faulty to be honest .


I am not sure about Camera Jungle, even the name suggests that one needs a guide. I was thinking more of Greys or Westminster, Aperture, Park Cameras and the like.

 




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Even MPB in Brighton or Mifsuds in Devon, London Camera Exchange as well.



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