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| Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2018 02:26 |
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jk
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Looks very compact. Ideal for birders!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2018 02:54 |
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Robert
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The price *seems* to be firming up around $4,300... A lot less than the 500mm f/4 FL. I am speculating there will be a high demand initially, followed by some coming available on the used market when some inept users realise it isn't a magic bullet to obtaining perfect birding images 'on the cheap'...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2018 10:48 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:The price *seems* to be firming up around $4,300... A lot less than the 500mm f/4 FL. But it's f5.6 not like the f4 of the 300P So, how good will it be with the 1.4x tc? If it cannot take advantage of the tc as well as the 300mm does (giving 420mm) it's not that far short of 500.  The other point is that for a lot less, you could have the 100-500 or the 600mm that Iain uses so successfully. Ok they are heavier. But you don't carry around long pro quality lenses on the off chance of using them. You take them to a specific location eg a hide and you can take something or use something to lighten the load. I confess I've been an advocate of lighter equipment for some time. But I've come to the conclusion that's only when you are walking about.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12th, 2018 16:21 |
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Robert
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A review of the 500mm f/5.6 PF
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20th, 2018 17:57 |
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jk
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The review is here. https://nikonrumors.com/2018/09/20/first-nikon-af-s-nikkor-500mm-f-5-6e-pf-ed-vr-lens-review.aspx/ Personally I would say that the flexibility offered by the slightly larger 200-500 f5.6 AFS VR (which I have) works better for me, especially on the D500.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21st, 2018 09:23 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:The review is here. Well you may be right. But I've never got close enough to a wild bird such that the image didn't need some cropping. That's true of my current 300mm +1.4tc =420mm, so I am guessing 500mm isn't going to be that different. However, as I said on another thread, my shortcoming is the inability to easily take wide angle scenery photos at the same time as being ready and prepared for telephoto opportunities of birds. 200-> won't get the scenery shots. Can't help thinking for my needs, a second camera body with a lens that covers wide angle through to say 200mm would be a more useful companion to the 300mm and 500mm primes (with or without the tc) on the D500. Of course I may be proved wrong in due course.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2018 11:53 |
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Graham Whistler
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Been talking to Eric today I am going for one of these as I find I hardly ever use my big 500mm AF-S f4 lens at 3.6 kg it is fine in a hide but not too good if your needs are mobile! I will trade in the big lens and hope tyo do a deal in next few days.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2018 17:10 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:Been talking to Eric today I am going for one of these as I find I hardly ever use my big 500mm AF-S f4 lens at 3.6 kg it is fine in a hide but not too good if your needs are mobile! I will trade in the big lens and hope tyo do a deal in next few days. If the 500 P is as good as the 300 P, you won't regret it. It's interesting that in an era when Nikon seem to be struggling to get worthwhile weight reductions on their mirrorless bodies, they are making leaps and bounds on their prime lenses. Perhaps the nett effect is what matters? At 1.4kg the new lens is a significant weight saving over older models. When it comes to lugging it around bird reserves and other wilderness locations that's going to be a great help with handling as well as toting. I can see a lot of people trading in their heavy lenses to try this 500. I am also rethinking the D500 versus the D850. Listening to Graham's experience and reasoning, the lesser magnification of the FX body means a smaller subject in the viewfinder. (I think you also eluded to this earlier, Jonathan, in your comment about the 200-500?) Whilst it goes against the grain NOT to fill the frame, in the case of BIF photography some 'space around the subject' is beneficial, perhaps essential, to ensure reliable tracking and framing. The extra pixel power of the D850 enables cropping after the event. So it gives the luxury of more reliable focus tracking with the surety that the quality will still be there in the crop. It may be that a D850 replaces my D500 in 2019.....after the 500mm P lens has been added.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 5th, 2018 04:00 |
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Graham Whistler
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If filling the trame seems to worry you with the D850 please look again at my first pix in the birding blog. The blow up of the greenfinch pix produced a noise free 16x20 exhibition quality print! I was a bit unhappy about the f5.6 of the new lens compared to the f4 of the big 500mm but to get enough DOF you need to work at least with f8 if not f11. My two weeks in Spain with the D850 and my 80-400mm lens plus x1.4 that starts at f5.6 also proved that the D850 can hack spot on focus with moving birds, QED? I just hope I can get a reasonable price for my as new little used 500mm. I'm asking just under £4000.00 it cost £6000 2.5 yrs ago. LCE in Southampton hope to do a deal with me with the new lens and take 500mm, they will phone me back shortly.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 5th, 2018 04:13 |
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jk
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The old design 600mm f4, 500mm f4, 400mm f2.8 were designed to be sharp wide open with only a small improvement one stop down from max aperture. Dont know about the newest lenses but similar I guess. Remember the min aperture for the latest generation of cameras D5, D850, D500 for the AF to work is f8 NOT f5.6 as was with D4 and others. In fact my D3 performed well enough at f8 but was a little slow to latch focus.
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