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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 16:11 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Well what convinced me was the first photograph I took with my new, ex-Eric Field D200 IR that I took when I got home from collecting it. In fairness that was a b****y good D200. 
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 16:34 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:
I think you are perhaps too hard on yourself Eric, YOU probably feel you could have done better, and that is what keeps your standards as high as they are. Some jobs I have done are a complete codge, but the client has been over the moon. I don't see the point in striving for absolute perfection when it isn't necessary. When the need arrises then wheel out the perfection, otherwise near enough IS good enough. Indeed, as far as image resolution is concerned I feel you can have too much detail in many photographs. I feel the absolute detail over the entire image is a bit of a distraction from the subject and the eye of the viewer, yes it's nice to see the texture of the plumage of a distant bird but we don't need to see each filament of the feathers. I have seen some of the finest botanic drawings ever made, the detail is stunning, the interpretation so good but they were made with quite blunt pencils with a gross resolution and paint brushes comparatively broad, yet the artist made these blunt tools portray to 'perfection' their subject, with no ambiguity about what they had drawn and coloured. What I am trying to say is the simple resolution is not as important as the execution of the work, the skill of the artist. Your client who was stunned by your Kitchen photographs wasn't looking at the resolution, he was looking at your artistic product. That does not require infinite definition, in my opinion, just adequate for the job.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 04:03 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: Well you may have a point or two there but my benchmark as far as bird photography is concerned is the clarity and definition of the whole bird. Most of the bird photos we have seen on here and elsewhere do not just have the eye sharp...the whole bird is within the zone of sharpness. It's fairly easy to lose the background when working with 800mm but less so if you only have 300mm and need to crop. Especially if the bird is sat on water. Lol Its also harder to keep the desired point of focus on the bird when it's twitching and moving erratically ...so a smaller aperture gives a margin for error. But I suppose this is where the sophisticated dynamic focusing may play its part. If it is able to sense and compensate for those rapid movements then larger apertures may be equally successful in keeping key detail sharp. Having said that, there will still be a trade off in optical quality going wider.  On a personal note...I hate those artyfarty shallow dof pictures of things like meals ...where the front sprout is sharp but the rest of the meal is oof. Can't see the point in restricting the viewers attention to a tiny part of the meal. It's ok for portraits where people's eyes are important and ears not so...but carrying that technique into other subjects is plain daft. IMHO. Maybe. Coming from the commercial sector where the client want to show ALL the detail in the room, the installation, the machine...I have become locked into f8/f11 too much.
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| Posted: Wed May 27th, 2015 04:18 |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric: I have become locked into f8/f11 too much. I agree 100%. The good news is now with modern DSLRs and good results from higher ISOs you do not need to lust after serious money F2.8 premium long lenses. Like you I had a busy life as a commercial advertising photographer and a lot of time with big cameras needing f22 or f32! Some of my Large Elinchrom studio flash units are so powerful I can no longer use them with a modern DSLR.
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| Posted: Wed May 27th, 2015 12:55 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:The good news is now with modern DSLRs and good results from higher ISOs you do not need to lust after serious money F2.8 premium long lenses.  Don't say that...I am currently selling off my pro gear and convincing people of the need for f2.8. Just sent a lens to Poland of all places. I didn't think anyone was left in Poland?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2015 04:26 |
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Graham Whistler
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I am at long last getting to grips with this auto focus and could kick myself for taking so long to get there. The main problem was finding out how to activate 11 or 51 etc points auto focus on the D810. Internet no real help and it was well hidden in Nikon D810 instruction book: Page 90 has most of the info but having set camera on in Menus 51 point dynamic area AF (even tells you for birds!) I went down to Titchfield Haven Bird Reserve yeat again and did not do much better. I could not even seem to be able to get the 810 out of AF-S single servo AF mode (so easy to do on previous Nikon DSLRs) Back to the drawing board and if all else fails read the instruction book yet again! Page 39 tells all!!!!! The AF-M focus has a little button in middle when pressed in you can activate all the auto focus commands using front sub command dial and or rear main command dial. I now go to reserve full of confidence of my new found ability to us my camera! Dull day but seemed to be working a bit better better. Perhaps the max f no on 80-400 lens of f5.6 is showing slight limitions of this lens in poor light compared with the much higher priced f2.8 lenses? Two days ago fine weather. All working well and getting the picture I wanted at long last!!! Avocets now with very newly hatched young! QED? Attachment: Advoset1337.jpg (Downloaded 19 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2015 11:21 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:I am at long last getting to grips with this auto focus and could kick myself for taking so long to get there. The main problem was finding out how to activate 11 or 51 etc points auto focus on the D810. Internet no real help and it was well hidden in Nikon D810 instruction book: These manuals are a pain in the bum. We should all get a brain implant for each new camera....a usb socket behind the ear. Not sure the f2.8 lenses are the answer to wildlife. Most of the bird shots I see seem to have used smaller apertures ( even f8 ). If the light isn't there it's either ISO or go down the pub.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2015 17:33 |
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Graham Whistler
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This follows on from above picture of the Avocets with their new chicks all are taken with motor drive set to fast. Light good: f10 or f11, lens 640mm with 1.4 extender, 1/800 sec 320 ISO A third younger bird joins the parents! Attachment: Avocets1307.jpg (Downloaded 14 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2015 17:35 |
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Graham Whistler
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Mother shouts, father takes action! Attachment: Avocets1305.jpg (Downloaded 14 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2015 17:35 |
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Graham Whistler
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Please go away! Attachment: Avocets1304.jpg (Downloaded 14 times)
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