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Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2015 05:35
 
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I am getting on very well with my new 400-80mm lens as per my recent postings but with bird photography as we all know 400mm is not long enough and I was seriously thinking of getting the TC-24E Mk 3 it has good reviews in use with my lens. In past I would never consider a teleconverter but this one seems to have hit the spot what do you all think?

I have just had a very good day on our local Titchfield Haven bird reserve with plenty to see and photo from their several hides. But as we all know in these places with telescope you get great views bur with Nikon 810 and 400mm not that good. In attached pix I have marked in the area of focus sq in camera viewfinder to show just how much you need to blow pixs up!( 1/800 sec at F11 320 ISO) This image even with D810 high res will not even look good with an A4 print! There was a photographer in hide with me he had a 600mm f4 Nikon on a D3X. I would not use it enough to spend £7000.00 to say nothing to the size and weight! The converted with my 400mm would give me 560mm lens with very little size or weight gain and I hope with good light levels little loss of quality.

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Graham,

That shot looks pretty good.

I have been there with my eagle interest. The converters work well. I am now using the 800 mm with the supplied extender on a D4s and love every bit of it. Have the 300, 400, 600, and now added the 800 to my set.

Being I am now pushing 83 years, I refuse not to give in to the weight factor -- that's what tripods are for.

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In my experience most teleconverters don't give as sharp a print as an equilivant crop from the same lens.

Tests with the Tamron 150-600 and teleconverters and filters using a lens chart showed immage degration in all cases using D610 - 24Mg. pixils

What I did for birding was buy a Nikon D5100 DX body, which gives 24Mg and 225-900mm eq. better than a crop even from a D800.



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I think you have to consider what type of bird photos you need. If you are trying to get a head shot of a sparrow then big investment is required. But some of the shots I prefer are 'whole bird plus some habitat'....and for that I find a 500mm on a DX is adequate for my purposes on most occasions.

If I can't get the shot I want with that, I am not close enough.



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Ralph your camera bag must weigh a ton! Thanks for comments re teleconverters. I have also talked to somebody today who has the TC-14E AF-S Mk 3 and said it is a great improvement on the Mk2 and has should give good results with my 400-80 lens so I have ordered one. Will report more when I have it.



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Graham Whistler wrote:
Ralph your camera bag must weigh a ton! Thanks for comments re teleconverters. I have also talked to somebody today who has the TC-14E AF-S Mk 3 and said it is a great improvement on the Mk2 and has should give good results with my 400-80 lens so I have ordered one. Will report more when I have it.

I will be interested to see if you get acceptable results. I found the TC magnified limitations in my 80-200 f2.8 zoom that didn't show up without the TC. It only really worked well enough with primes.....so it went onto eBay pdq.



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Graham,

Be advised all III type converters don't work on all lenses. Autofocus cannot be used on most any thing over 2.8 -- see chart.

The way I use them is focus manually and fine tune by hand. I am now trying the fine tune that is in the D4 & D4s (doing a lot of reading and trying - some good - some bad results) cameras.

Shooting wide open at f2.8 on any lens and a high ISO to obtain a fast fast shutter speed seems to be the answer in most cases.

Any way the chart is below for all glass.

RS

Usable lenses
The following AF-S and AF-I NIKKOR lenses can be used with the TC-20E  :
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AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G IF-ED* AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED
AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f/2.8G ED VR
AF-S VR Nikkor 300mm f/2.8G IF-ED
AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-I Nikkor 300mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/4D IF-ED* AF-S NIKKOR 400mm f/2.8G ED VR AF-S Nikkor 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S Nikkor 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-I Nikkor 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED
* Autofocus cannot be used.
AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/4G ED VR*
AF-S Nikkor 500mm f/4D IF-ED  *
AF-S Nikkor 500mm f/4D IF-ED*
AF-I Nikkor 500mm f/4D IF-ED*
AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f/4G ED VR*
AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4D IF-ED  *
AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4D IF-ED*
AF-I Nikkor 600mm f/4D IF-ED*
AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR
AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 200-400mm f/4G IF-ED*
• Other lenses cannot be used. Do not attach other lenses since the rear elements of the lens will touch and may damage the elements in the teleconverter.
• Vibration reduction function can be used with the VR (Vibration Reduction) lens used with Nikon digital SLR (Nikon FX/DX format) cameras, F6, F5, F100, F80-series/N80-series**, F75-series/N75-series** and F65-series/N65- series** camera body.
** The Nikon N80-series, N75-series and N65-series are sold exclusively in the U.S.A.



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Graham,

I do have the 800 mm lens -- that came with a tele converter that Nikon tunes the converter for each lens. It's a 1.4 I believe. The mm shows just over 1000 mm in the data.

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I purchased the Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS because if I wanted to use the x2 converter then I would still have good AF.
I have a therefore a 800mm f5.6 ultimately or if I put the 300mm f2.8 on the x2 then I have a 600mm f5.6 lens but on the 300 with TC there is noticeable softness which doesnt seem to be the same on the 400mm.
I always use the combos on a tripod if I doing bird shooting and on a monopod for motor racing.



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Thanks for all above info. It should work OK with my 400-80mm as I have seen to reviews from people with same lens. I will be able to let you know how I get on in a few days.



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