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| The last wooden flat bottomed Mersey sailing barge | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2020 12:34 |
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Robert
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chrisbet wrote:Contrail? I thought it was Dave having a barbeque It had occurred to me to clone in a chimney to 'emit' the apparent BBQ smoke... but for once sense and reason prevailed! 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 07:14 |
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blackfox
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in the words of the great dutch boatbuilder count Otto van Der dyke the boat is what's known as gerfuckendee . . or in engleesh a non viable repair 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 08:37 |
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chrisbet
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Define "viable" - sometimes something is worth saving even though its resultant value is much less than the cost of the thing. E.g. some people will spend £1,000's on a pet that is replaceable for £100's. In this case even if, like grandad's hammer that has had 7 new handles and 4 new heads, much of the original planking needs replacing and many of the frames also, it is still the last Mersey flat and worth saving.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 08:59 |
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jk
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chrisbet wrote:Define "viable" - sometimes something is worth saving even though its resultant value is much less than the cost of the thing. I agree. It is like the current economic fascination/fixation about GDP. The Gross Domestic Product measures the value of economic activity within a country. Strictly defined, GDP is the sum of the market values, or prices, of all final goods and services produced in an economy during a period of time. ... GDP is a number that expresses the worth of the output of a country in local currency. There is also a significant thought that says "GDP is vanity, sustainability is reality!" Of course to current greedy capitalism and its followers this is heresy but this latest COVID-19 has demonstrated the fragility of globalism and the value of localism. Somewhere we need to find the balance.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 09:08 |
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chrisbet
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Just looking at the facebook page and there is a photo of one side where the rotten planks have been pulled away to the top of the first plank after the turn of the bilge - this plank looks to be in reasonable condition and may be the last of the bottom greenheart planks.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 09:17 |
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chrisbet
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jk wrote:Of course to current greedy capitalism and its followers this is heresy but this latest COVID-19 has demonstrated the fragility of globalism and the value of localism. Somewhere we need to find the balance. I have long been against centralised services - yes they may be economical but they are not flexible - viz the distribution of centrally held PPE stocks, why on earth weren't the stocks held in the places they are used?? I would much prefer to live in a place where local producers sold local products to the local people and supported the local community. I do wonder if we would be so much better off if the small hospitals had not been axed in the name of cost - that bridge between major hospitals and care in the community could solve many of the problems we have now.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 12:29 |
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Robert
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chrisbet wrote:Just looking at the facebook page. Dave has a Facebook page??? Really? How do you access that then? Seems very improbable that Dave would have anything to do with a computer... I know almost nothing about Facebook.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 12:32 |
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jk
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Cottage hospitals for 'care in the community' rather than 'forced care' at home or as the alternative is a hospital bed is hugely preferable. People in cottage hospitals get trained nurses to look after them and it can be used as a training place for student and new nurses. It also provides a training place where people who wish to work in the geriatric area can go an learn in a supervised setting, rather than working for minimum wages in a private company who may or may not provide them with additional training. Vital hospital beds are not taken up for people who are largely just in need of care and attention rather than medical help. Of course medical help can be easily called for as and when it is required. The people there also get an opportunity to socialise in a safer environment. Those older and able patients that wish to stay at home can do so but the movement of elderly people into a safe environment also has the benefit of freeing up housing stock. There are numerous advantages but unfortunately accountants only understand balances and spreadsheets. Best not get me started on this as I feel very strongly having seen the situation in the latter years of my father's life.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 13:57 |
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chrisbet
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Not Dave but his mate I think - I found 2 pages facebook oakdale MORS you will have to register to see the pages - if you don't fancy doing that then this is the photo i was referring to  Click here to comment on this image. Also on Facebook - Askam & Ireleth Information page 13 March · Funding Appeal - many of you will know that during the very high tides yesterday the Oakdale suffered massive water ingress and damage. Thankfully Dave and his pets were rescued by DIR although all personal posessions were lost. The Oakdale is the only one of its kind left and without financial support it may not be possible to repair and save it. A bank account set up and this will accept bank transfers and all cash donations will be paid into it Sort code 11-00-28 Acc num 12494069 Donation point at Angel Stores. If you feel you can help please contact this page. Please share far and wide.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 14:04 |
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chrisbet
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jk wrote:Cottage hospitals for 'care in the community' rather than 'forced care' at home or as the alternative is a hospital bed is hugely preferable. You and I both! We have seen not only cottage hospitals but care homes closed due to government cuts - now all we have are private nursing homes and people waiting to get out of hospital that are medically fit but lack a care package. My mother went in for a routine check up which took minutes to do and then we had to wait for hours for the social services lady to arrive to "assess" her care package before we could leave and she wasn't able to grasp the simple fact that we had private care arranged for her!
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