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Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2019 05:10
 
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There should have been nothing blocking the focus point here but light was poor. Same camera and lens set-up 1/250 sec VR on f14 ISO 1250, ( with VR I have taken plenty of sharp pix at 1/125 even 1/60 sec).



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Took x4 of this and went back last night to chek the NEF Raw files and I had not looked at this the last and only sharp one!!!



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Graham Whistler wrote:
There should have been nothing blocking the focus point here but light was poor. Same camera and lens set-up 1/250 sec VR on f14 ISO 1250, ( with VR I have taken plenty of sharp pix at 1/125 even 1/60 sec).
But if the subject is moving then it wont get better unless you increase shutter speed.
Birds twitch at a very high rate so we dont see it at the time but it causes the image to be unsharp.



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Thanks for that I do know but brain must not have been working on that shot. I do try to keep 1/400 sec or bettrer but then in poor light with long lenses DOF is a problem, I think photography of small birds with long lenses is as hard as it gets!



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Graham Whistler wrote:
Thanks for that I do know but brain must not have been working on that shot. I do try to keep 1/400 sec or bettrer but then in poor light with long lenses DOF is a problem, I think photography of small birds with long lenses is as hard as it gets!

I have enough sharp but not sharp enough images! 
Sometimes you think it is you shaking but frequently it is the animal/bird twitching as they decide whether to stay or go!



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Maybe this should be in another topic but it probably fits well here as it's about knowing your camera....even after years of using one daily.

Today I decided to be a Twitcher. 
Mainly because my birding friend Mike had lost a good friend over Christmas and was very down. I thought he needed a kickstart. So we went after the Eastern Yellow Wagtail that's been seen on the 'muck piles' a few miles from where we live.

The bird was quite obliging given 50-60 telescopes and cameras pointed at it. But it was still some distance from our viewpoint....needing heavy cropping even with the 500mm lens.

I had heeded Graham's comments about the size of the focus point and left the D500 at home. The D850 is a lovely camera but has been idle for many occasions when birds were on the menu....and that's the point.

As you will be aware, the D850, like many DSLRs has memory banks to store settings. A B C D. I had configured mine ...A (general photography) Birding (yes I had renamed that one!) C (Landscapes) D (experimental area to avoid messing with the other predefined ones) 
Which memory did I use? Of course  .....D   How many times must I tell myself to double check key settings before starting out? In fairness it was a spur of the moment rushed departure...but no excuses. For some reason I had left D memory bank set on medium file size JPEGs!...and AFS...and some other bizarre long forgotten settings that I must have been playing with when I first bought the camera.

So in the short period allowed (when trying to get birds to pose) I took a complete set of poorly exposed, oversaturated and mainly out of focus low res JPEGs. 

Quite a successful morning really. :lol:

This is the best I could manage.




Still Mike had his spirits lifted and he (kindly) says this shot is a good enough record for him to use.

On a more pertinent point...
Although I accept that the smaller size focus square on the D850 may well be better at zeroing in on smaller birds heads, as Graham says. There is a limit. Even with the D850 this bird was barely bigger than the square itself!  I am sure it does make a difference within a certain subject to camera distance range. But at the end of the day, there is no substitute for getting the bird big enough in the frame to enable the focus square to be able to separate the head from the rest of the bird.....whether that's by closer proximity or greater magnification.



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Thats not bad Eric with you so far away. The thing about the Kenya birds and working mostly out of the Landrover I was able to get quite close. The little Pigmy Falcon is only 8 ins high smaller than our blackbird and the shot above was only about a 50% crop lens at 400mm plus x1.4 on the D500.  Happy NY all I must go to bed!



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This is the full frame shot with 500mm plus 1.4x tc....720mm.  It shows the size, or lack, of the problem.

It's interesting though, seeing the bird favour this disturbed area of poo in this photo. Iit never occurred to me at the time, to ask one of the people with a tripod to poke the legs around in the poo nearer to us. The bird may have come closer to explore the disturbed area.

Field craft eh?  :doh:


This was also take on the Northside of the poo pile....colder light but more realistic than on the winter sun bathed Southside of the poo. Unfortunately 1/160 on the North, 1/1000 on the South meant I ventured to the south.



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I've backed off some of the low winter sun to make it a tad more natural....




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That is very good Eric for such a large blow up this is the major plus of the D850. Lower noise than the D500 in poor light, if you underexpose a bit and need to correct in post.



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