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Posted: Wed Apr 3rd, 2019 05:07
 
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I met one of the local Inshore Rescue volunteers and while telling him about my astro adventures and that I had been testing up on the moor, he asked me if I have any photo's of the estuary showing the sand-bar (the boundary at low tide between the sands and deep-sea water) and all the channels with the tide fully out. I am sure I have but not the entire sand-bar.  So while I was up on the moor, I explored a track which I thought might get a decent view of the entire estuary.  Maps are useless because the channels are continually shifting and Google Earth blur them out, perhaps for the same reason.

While I was exploring the track I attracted the attention of the local gamekeeper, who stopped and watched me for some time while I enjoyed my fish and chips!  Eventually the parking spot near the  bench came free and I moved down to set up before darkness fell, ready to test the Go-Pro camera.  Gamekeeper still back and forth keeping an eye on me! lol

Eventually it was almost fully dark, just about to test the Go-Pro the gamekeeper came past again so I stopped him and assured him I was just a mad photographer waiting for it to go really dark before I could take some photo's. :lol: He seemed a bit puzzled, I explained you can't see the stars in daylight!!! He laughed, so I took the opportunity to ask him where the best viewpoint would be where I could get a full view of the Duddon sand-bar and the estuary.  He was very helpful and showed me where I could go to get a the best view of the entire estuary.  I am going up there this afternoon to check it out.  I am hoping I can make a time-lapse video of an entire incoming tide on a very low to very high spring tide.



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Be interested to see the tide bar photos.


I have a magnifier right angle eyepiece for Nikon in my bellows macro box....... but it is in Spain.

This is the item.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAGULL-1x-2x-right-angle-view-finder-for-Canon-Nikon-Fuji-Pentax-Samsung/121073511879?epid=942739191&hash=item1c308b2dc7:g:H64AAOxyNepRmcI~&frcectupt=true



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Thanks, I will see what my buddy comes up with, he's a bit unpredictable...

I am struggling to come up with the dates for maximum tides, I know it varies throughout the year as well as the month but my searches only bring up the next weeks tides.  I know the inshore rescue lads have tide tables, but I don't often see them, and I would like to find more helpful data, I can access myself on-line, like the Photographers Ephemeris, but for tides, there must be something, it's vitally important to so many people and predictable.

One of my neighbours mentioned we will get some very high tides this year, JK, do you have a favourite tidal data source for advance planning of projects?

We have snow down to about 300ft this morning.



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Have a look here -- https://www.ntslf.org/tides/tidepred?port=Heysham  and  https://www.ntslf.org/tides/hilo?port=Heysham

Heysham tide times won't be much different and if the height of the tide is of interest then you can see the spring tide dates & heights.



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Thanks Chris, seems the 19-20th April is a pretty good time, very low and high tides, it's actually the low I am after, to reveal most of the sands.  We don't have a weather forecast for that w/e yet but I can only live in hope.



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Low tide difference is about 1 hour later at Askham than Heysham.



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Thanks JK, time not so critical as height (or depth).  I am glad I don't have to wait months to get something so extreme.

This could be a precursor to a time-lapse I want to make of the tidal activity out in the estuary.  It's quite amazing how much power there is and the relatively vast area it covers.  A subject all of it's own, without the wildlife it supports.



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If you want lowest low tide then... I will need to dig deeper to get the data.
You need a spring tide, low tide...  Around the time of New Moon and Full Moon.   This gives lowest low tide, so minimal depth over the bar!
Looking at the charts quickly I would say this Saturday 6th April and every two weeks (approx) after would be best.



Try this url for weekly tides for you.
https://www.tidetimes.co.uk/duddon-bar-tide-times

For background info then try this url.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moontides/



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I will let you know later rob I have a proper Liverpool bay tide chart .

 




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right rob ,from my little blue book for Morecambe 
  fri 19th 12pm  9.8 mtr. 32.2 feet 
  sat 20th 12.45p.m 9.9mtr. 32.4 feet   both adjusted to take account of British summer time which throws out a lot of tide tables .. low air pressure and a south/westerly wind tend to make for higher than predicted tides due to the nature of Liverpool bay and the Irish Sea .
oops low tides fri  at 06.45
                     sat 07.20 

 or evening low water 
    fri 7.10 p.m
    sat 7.50 p.m 

marches tides would have been better ..

p.s looking at your photos of the church spire the first thing that comes into my mind is mirror shock/slap have you thought of trying a mirrorless body .. most Panasonic or Olympus bodies take virtually any lens from any maker via adaptors i.e old manual focus lens .

 

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