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Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2019 17:22
 
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not seen it but well done graham

 




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thats just my style graham , I have gone from a mirrorless screen that what you see is what you get to a very old screen that I cant quiet get right , but I'm working on it .

 




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Iain wrote: I see that Graham's egret has made it into this months bird watching magazine.
Well done Graham.


Congratulations Graham.



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jk wrote:
Iain wrote: I see that Graham's egret has made it into this months bird watching magazine.
Well done Graham.


Congratulations Graham.


Yes well done Graham....pity they didn't print it as big as it deserved.



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another one from yesterday ... goldfinch on reeds

golden gaze by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr

 




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Has that helped? Good pix nice and sharp, good detail but too much contrast and a tad warm. For me this is now a very good picture by most standards!

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Difficult territory Graham.

Jeff likes his style and that's his prerogative, I feel it is a bit pink but I think you have gone too far, to me, it's dull and lifeless in your version. Your version may actually be true to nature but nature is (usually) supposed to be dull, camouflage is natures way with most things.

Jeff on the other hand isn't trying to depict nature as nature intends, but to create a spectacular picture, from the form and pose of the bird, combined with the background to create a pleasing piece of art, for the ordinary viewer. When I first saw this image I was very impressed, despite little bells saying it's 'a bit pink'! Graham, you are no ordinary viewer! You come from a background of colour perfection, Jeff if enjoying his wildlife photography and making adjustments to his images as he feels appropriate.

To me the magic is in capturing the pose and in combination with the background, a delightful image. The exact colour balance don't matter too much to me, as long as it's not spoiling the image. Levels, to me are much more important and if you check your version of 'corrected' you will see you have lost the white end. I have 'corrected' that and this, to me is MY perception of what I feel is a good balance but I suspect that for every person to adjust this photograph, each result would be different.

Do we go with straight out of the camera, basic adjustments to get it close to nature natural, or adjust it to our own taste? I respect Jeff's right to make the adjustments he feels are appropriate, right to wrong in our eyes.

For what it's worth, my version, hope you don't mind Jeff... This is Graham's 'corrected' with the levels corrected and a bit of pink put back...

But I still like the original, right or wrong.

Off out to photograph the stars... at 04:30!

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Hmmmm I prefer mine but as Robert says it's down to individual taste , I like to give my photos impact it's always worked for me , not going to change my style now ,
To me both your versions look pale / pallid but it's your choice , a few years back in the era of using windows we did a check on several different monitors as my lad had them available and every single rendition of the same photo was totally different ..
In the era of the i.mac they are usually the same but people using laptops to view or process will have problems with there colours due to changing angles of view .. leave it at that ... off to hopefully get some red/ ginger/pink / orange squirrels later LOL

 




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Robert wrote:
I've found that Jeff, I normally keep my D200's and D3 dialled back 1/3 of a stop in decent light. I don't use the D300S in daylight enough to know about that, but I see no reason to think it will be different

Yes all my Nikons have been used with -0.3 or -0.7 EV compensation. However for BIF I used +1.5EV so I get underwing detail. The D500 gives good results for this setting.
I am finding my Z7 seems to work best at 0EV so maybe Nikon have adjusted the metering a twaek.



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Robert wrote:
Difficult territory Graham.

Jeff likes his style and that's his prerogative, I feel it is a bit pink but I think you have gone too far, to me, it's dull and lifeless in your version. Your version may actually be true to nature but nature is (usually) supposed to be dull, camouflage is natures way with most things.

Jeff on the other hand isn't trying to depict nature as nature intends, but to create a spectacular picture, from the form and pose of the bird, combined with the background to create a pleasing piece of art, for the ordinary viewer. When I first saw this image I was very impressed, despite little bells saying it's 'a bit pink'! Graham, you are no ordinary viewer! You come from a background of colour perfection, Jeff if enjoying his wildlife photography and making adjustments to his images as he feels appropriate.

To me the magic is in capturing the pose and in combination with the background, a delightful image. The exact colour balance don't matter too much to me, as long as it's not spoiling the image. Levels, to me are much more important and if you check your version of 'corrected' you will see you have lost the white end. I have 'corrected' that and this, to me is MY perception of what I feel is a good balance but I suspect that for every person to adjust this photograph, each result would be different.

Do we go with straight out of the camera, basic adjustments to get it close to nature natural, or adjust it to our own taste? I respect Jeff's right to make the adjustments he feels are appropriate, right to wrong in our eyes.

For what it's worth, my version, hope you don't mind Jeff... This is Graham's 'corrected' with the levels corrected and a bit of pink put back...

But I still like the original, right or wrong.

Off out to photograph the stars... at 04:30!


I like Robert's adjustment of the photo.
But I do find the reed brush flower a little detracting. The bird is outstanding. I never really appreciated the beauty of the goldfinch.



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