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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 03:13 |
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jk
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I had ago with the method that Jeff is using to reduce background clutter and noise. The method is just a variant of what I use for portrait images so not a new technique but a variation of a technique. Very useful but a bit time consuming.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 03:21 |
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blackfox
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I timed myself actually doing a few photos , and it takes me roughly 3.5 minutes from raw file to finished j.peg ,so not really time consuming , it only takes longer if there are any bits that need cloning done
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 05:31 |
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blackfox
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teal reflections , 1/80th sec handheld  time will teal by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 06:02 |
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jk
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Hi Jeff, Not sure I like the effect on the reflections in the water in the teal photo. What does the original look like.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 06:30 |
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blackfox
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Not sure what you mean jk , it's more or less s.o.c , just slow shutter speed , I definetly haven't messed around with it .
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 06:36 |
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Robert
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Looks OK to me, just the reflection is upside down but I guess we can't blame Jeff for that, it's probably that lens. BTW, I didn't realise it was VR... Or have you snuk in a Z6 with it's inbuilt VR or IS?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 07:08 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I had ago with the method that Jeff is using to reduce background clutter and noise. I suppose this comes back to my basic premise that we ought to be able to get the result we want out of the camera without any editing. A forlorn hope with UK weather and the serendipity of casual photography ( as opposed to controlled environments etc) In essence it comes down to deciding if the requirement for alteration affects the subject, the background or the whole image. Separating the subject from the background (by whatever method) enables the alteration of the two parts independently. But it takes a few moments to effect this. Isolated changes such as noise reduction, sharpening, depth of field boketh are easily done, but to me, the NEED to do this (even a few minutes) on every photo, takes away some of the charm. Coming from a commercial photography background, where in reportage situations we weren't ALLOWED to alter photos, it smacks of not being able to get it right first time. I know that with wildlife, so many things conspire to make this extremely difficult to get the perfect result from the camera. But part of me wonders if there's more pleasure in just getting the best you can out of the camera ....even if it falls short of a gold standard. 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 07:46 |
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blackfox
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heres the original shot cropped in l/room . nothing else done . I GET THE FEELING YOUR ALL OVERTHINKING IT I'm just amazed it even came out at all , given the vintage of the camera and shutter speed ,hand held as well at 600mm  origional by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 09:41 |
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jk
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IMHO The reflections in the rippled water detract from the very fine pictureof the teal. I dont have any solutions as wildlife it is not speciality.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2019 09:46 |
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jk
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Eric wrote:jk wrote: I agree Eric and Jeff. Sometimes we overwork/overthink the problem or image. It was one of the reasons why I posted my HDR image off the trees around the stream and also a straight image. Yes the HDR image has a little more shadow detail but when you consider that I could have produced the same result with a quick curves change then it does question why overekaborate by taking 5 images @50MB/image then blend them together and output when one correctly exposed image with a small curves tweak will produce the same output.
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