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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2019 14:31
 
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How close were you to the kingfisher?



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Graham Whistler wrote:
Kingfisher shoot today in very dull weather but here is a sample more later: Nikon D850 with 500mm lens and x1.4 1/320 sec f8 ISO 2500.

Quite exquisite:bowing:

Is that fill in flash in its eye?



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The hide was about 60 feet from the birds and these 850 images are using about 50% of the full frame. This shot similar to other ISO 2500 same very dull light.
A lady photographer shared the hide with me and also using a D850 but the all new 500mm f4 AF-S light weignt FL lens super bit of kit and much lighter than my older Nikon 500mm f4. Very similat controls to my new 500mm lens and Eric she also has a 300mm lens like yours. I have given her our dslr.net details and she has promised to join and post some of her images from todays shoot.

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Really good images Graham, and Eric's Egret, lovely.

I really wish I could join in but one has to be realistic, without the gear I would be wasting my time. You need a good, long fast lens and some knowledge of the subject.



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Lovely capture Graham but I think I prefer the first image. Partly the fish contribution but also the crop size.

I've just looked back at my recent egret and wader images and now feel I've made the birds too large in the frame. It's made me wonder about something Mike said to me that his best images are 1/3 bird 2/3 habitat.
Maybe a bit of post rationalisation on his part, not having the tele reach we have, but I do feel there is some truth in the relative framing.

It's a bit like these big tvs.....if the close up shots of peoples faces are bigger than real life when sitting in normal viewing position, they take on a more invasive aggressive feel.

Not saying your kingfisher is aggressive 😆


Would be interested in views about bird size v habitat contribution to framing.



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Interesting thought Eric.

Doing underwater photography is similar to bird photography except you have the added limitation of needing to manage your air and buoyancy. Initially I wanted to fill the frame with the subject either in the initial shot or by cropping. Eventually I decidedthis response resulted in a 'stamp collection' style of photography. Now I look for the fish to be against a good background with good lighting. This tends to result in a 1/3 ratio of subject/background.



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Posted: Thu Jan 3rd, 2019 05:02
 
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jk wrote:
Interesting thought Eric.

Doing underwater photography is similar to bird photography except you have the added limitation of needing to manage your air and buoyancy. Initially I wanted to fill the frame with the subject either in the initial shot or by cropping. Eventually I decidedthis response resulted in a 'stamp collection' style of photography. Now I look for the fish to be against a good background with good lighting. This tends to result in a 1/3 ratio of subject/background.


We were given a 55" tv just before Christmas by a friend (long story). I've resisted going that big because when the newscasters come on, their heads were normal size (as if they were sitting across the room from me) so I didn't pay much attention to them. But now they are bigger, I feel compelled to listen to them despite the rubbish they are reporting. It's weird.

AND.... all the poor make up, sagging skin, wrinkles and pimples are so much more evident. I can even see NOISE on the images :lol::lol:

Mary Nightingale (as it's a bird topic) has a turkey neck hanging down and my wife's ski jumping toy boy hero's have all got acne and freckles. It destroys our fantasies. :lol:

I think there's a lot to be said for being small and unobtrusive. :lol:

But seriously I am going to give my subjects a bit more air. Maybe backing off the cropping won't mean as much noise reduction.o.O



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The only thing I find wrong with Graham's shot above the central composition perhaps move it to the left a bit , I was always told to leave the birds /subjects room to look into

edit on this my reply above was actually to robs now reposted image below . :whip::whip::whip:

 




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I posted a reply about the previous Kingfisher photo, but during editing I thought I had double posted ti but in correcting that I seem to have deleted it, I can't seem to reinstate it so I am calling it quits, I don't have the energy to retype it all even if I could remember what I said.

I do remember that I thought the fish became the subject rather than the bird, and that the moss on the perch was for me too sharp and became a visual distraction.

I did repost Grahams Kingfisher to save flipping back and forth to view it during the discussion.

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here's one of my shots just before xmas , a song thrush on the berries , taken with my Panasonic g80 and Leica 100-400 and a download using Flickr as the host .
50 shades of brown by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr

 

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