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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 17:45 |
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I was struggling with lighting in a woodland on Monday. This shot was the least noisy at iso 2500. Attachment: 685775BC-18BA-45A5-B0FE-628963E6B274.jpeg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 17:50 |
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Eric
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And at 11000iso....well even the long tailed tit is bemused at the gritty surroundings. Attachment: 4B1581C7-62AB-425D-BFEB-2029FBA08585.jpeg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 17:57 |
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Eric
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I have made no attempt to sharpen or denoise these files...they are just cropped ( heavily for long tailed tit) to better show the background noise and enable posting. I would be interested to know what ISO's other people are routinely needing to capture woodland birds?
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 18:06 |
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Eric
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Here's another just under 3000iso Attachment: 01C29241-EACD-4949-818B-C1D2EEB3244C.jpeg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 18:11 |
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Eric
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It is less obvious when the subject is bigger in the frame and the background more forgiving. This was at 7500iso Oops...this was a full frame image and too big to post. So I sampled it down and I think the jpegging has softened some of the noise. Maybe that's the answer?  Attachment: E1DB87F2-A5F6-4903-815A-46A4688FDBA6.jpeg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 04:57 |
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Graham Whistler
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The naughty wizard waved a wand over your pix Eric! Even these super ISO settings need a bit of after post work to improve but I find the D500 beyond ISO2500 quickly gets beyond help. What a lot of photographers forget if you under expose in the first place noise builds up very quickly in post production and even Photoshop CC is not able to correct it. Attachment: Eric.jpg (Downloaded 6 times)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 06:37 |
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jk
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Graham, it might be useful if you could detail the steps you took to improve the image. XMP file would be useful.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 07:44 |
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Eric
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Now you see I don't want to HAVE TO remove artefacts after the event. Frankly all de-noising software does is make the photo softer. Without masking, that includes the subject! I still want to get it right in the camera. I know I know that's old school! I don't want to HAVE TO crop.....so I need to get closer or buy expensive long lenses. I don't want to HAVE TO de-noise....I want a noise free camera up to 5000iso. If the lighting needs higher iso....I can either accept I will get noisey images or go to the pub. I don't want to HAVE TO mask my subjects to protect them from the excesses of de-noising filters. Take a look at Jeffs Slavonic grebe shot. Being frank, if that level of noise free, sharp quality can be obtained on a 4/3 camera why can't Nikon do better on cameras costing 3,4,5x the price of the Panasonic?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 07:52 |
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Graham Whistler
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JK I will do my best but it is a bit complex: It is best done on the RAW file but you can also process Tiffs or JPG but works much better on RAW load image in normal way into Photoshop CC: 1: Filter: Camera Raw Filter selct 3 option of x2 triangles 2: Image size to 200% so you can see noise. 3: Lumiinace slider to 40% watching noise go Luminance detail up to 80% Sharpening up to 60 Sharpening plus Luminance should = 100 as rough guide. 4: fit image to fit to view. 5: Hold down ALT Key screen goes white keep holding ALT and slide Masking up to 70% you will now just see highlight detail only. Open image and finish any normal processing you would do like levels etc. (This pix has been processed this way too) It is much better to do this live on computer as I do for a workshop. Attachment: Wagtail2446.jpg (Downloaded 5 times)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 08:02 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:
That can indeed be true, but in this image (accidentally set ex comp to +0.3) the noise is clearly an inherent problem Attachment: 9B97FC98-9939-424C-BB3E-B0BD8BC853F3.jpeg (Downloaded 5 times)
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