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jk
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I have been waiting for this moment for 25 years. I have just ordered (yes ordered!!) one of the units from I'm Back for 35mm cameras. https://imback.eu BTW: CHF to GBP exchange rate is nearly 1:1 so just read £ for CHF. If you are in USA then with current White House incumbent you price is unknown! I will report on the unit when I get it but until then I will get ready for play. I intend to use it in my Nikon F3 or F2. |
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GeoffR
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Interesting but actually... No! From my perspective, there's nothing like enough information to make an informed decision. Is the I'm back Film constitute all i need or do I have to buy model specific accessories to get it to work? What batteries does it take, does it need a memory card, does it communicate with the camera (I'd guess not)? I looked at the videos, still doesn't really answer my questions but it doesn't look like it would work with an F5 anyway. I'll be interested to hear your feedback on it but I won't be buying one, yet. |
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chrisbet
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I don't understand why - is there any advantage to putting a digital back onto a film camera? |
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jk
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@GeoffR For me it is a fun item that allows me to use my F2 again. Everything you need, except for the SD card, is in the kit. I am using a 32 GB card. To fit it you need to remove the film pressure plate from your camera back. This is an easy process as it is usually a four point attachment on the camera back that relies on spring clips. Then you align the 20MP 4/3 sensor into the shutter aperture of the camera where the film would fit. A single piece of tape holds it in position until the film back is closed. It works for almost all film cameras so it will work with your F5. No communication with the camera. To take a photo you set up the camera shutter speed and aperture and focus it then trigger the ImBack Film electronics then within 1-2seconds you trigger your camera shutter. Yes this is clunky but it achieves the result. Results are more akin to an Kodak Instamatic result rather than the result of modern digital cameras. I think that the focus may need focus adjustment but mine gives what I want. The electronics give an option to have film simulations applied so the is B&W and several different film sims available. ISO 100-1600. The result is saved as a RAW and/or JPG. The RAW file needs conversion to a DNG for processing. Conversion software is via a java based applet that runs locally on you computer in the internet browser. The JPG option works but I use the RAW+JPG option. Download images via USB-C cable to your computer or bluetooth to phone or tablet if you prefer. |
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GeoffR
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Thanks, that's interesting but with an F5 it would make for a very large camera because the F5 has a vertical grip built in. I also foresee a problem with the F5 in that it is a purely motor driven camera, without a film it would probably not work as expected. Rather than risk the F5s I'll give this a miss. |
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jk
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GeoffR wrote:Thanks, that's interesting but with an F5 it would make for a very large camera because the F5 has a vertical grip built in. I also foresee a problem with the F5 in that it is a purely motor driven camera, without a film it would probably not work as expected. Rather than risk the F5s I'll give this a miss.Yes I think you are correct it would make for a very bulky camera. |
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Graham Whistler
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I see no need to use my 1960 Rollieflex with a digital back as I can still get 120 B&W film if I want to use it. This photo with the same camera, then new, in 1960 taken in Battersea Park fashion shoot i was still a photo student at the Regent Street Poly photo school. Click here to comment on this image. |
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Eric
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It’s a fair point, that film is still available. There are also labs still making a living at processing film, if one isn’t inclined to do it oneself. Of course it all comes with a recurring price tag that digital cameras don’t have…unless you keep buying them toys. I don’t hanker for the camera bodies I had predigital. I personally think the Nikon D850 surpassed all my previous cameras, digital and film, in terms of its ergonomics, speed and ease of use….not to mention great images, instantly. My one slight regret, since embarking on this Fuji, Sony, Fuji swopabout, is not sticking with the D850. It was good enough for me as a professional…I am certain it would be more than adequate for me as a retired hobby photographer. |
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jk
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Eric wrote:It’s a fair point, that film is still available.I still have a D850 but compared with my Z8 it is less good but the issue with the F move to Z lens mount is a another cost but it has made me focus on my real needs wrt lenses. I find the real advantage of digital over film is the cost of shoot is nearly zero and I can change ISO as often as I want in a shoot. E6 slide processing with a high quality scan of 35mm or 120film runs at £20/roll. So my ROI for the I'm Back is 20 rolls of film. Probably a year or less of film shooting. I can remember taking 50 rolls of film to Kenya when I went to see my parents and go on safari. The I'mBackFilm is a nice toy to have so I can use my old Nikon F2 which I do enjoy doing. |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I still have a D850 but compared with my Z8 it is less good but the issue with the F move to Z lens mount is a another cost but it has made me focus on my real needs wrt lenses.I see your point on the costs….and I am sure the latest Nikons do match or improve to some extent on models like the D850. My point is more that I no longer need or hanker for all the whizz and bang capabilities that manufacturers are now adding to cameras. Sad though it may be, to some extent I have lost a lot of my passion and drive for “going out to take photos”. Now… it’s taking any lightweight camera with me when I go out to do other things just in case. In that scenario, having an expensive top of the range camera is pointless overkill. A camera that feels good in the hand, is compact, that I understand and takes decent snaps is all I need. |
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chrisbet
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I understand where you are coming from Eric, even my D610 has many combinations of adjustments and settings so the "just grab a picture" of something spotted out and about usually falls to the phone camera. With its clever software, it usually rewards with a decent enough image. I would carry the FM if I knew I was going to take photos - there is something rather nice about just having the basic controls and a built in light meter. Problem here is that film is a no-no when flying as the latest scanners use even stronger radiation than the older ones. If driving somewhere then the D610 and a couple of lenses or even the Sony FS5 video stands half a chance of coming. |
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Iain
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Eric wrote:I see your point on the costs….and I am sure the latest Nikons do match or improve to some extent on models like the D850. My point is more that I no longer need or hanker for all the whizz and bang capabilities that manufacturers are now adding to cameras.In some ways I have to say I'm like your Eric. A few weeks ago I bought a Z6iii as back up to my Z8 and I stuck my Z28-400mm lens on it and have really enjoyed walking around with a light weight camera and lens. |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:In some ways I have to say I'm like your Eric. A few weeks ago I bought a Z6iii as back up to my Z8 and I stuck my Z28-400mm lens on it and have really enjoyed walking around with a light weight camera and lens.Jans been using her iPhone ever since she found the Panasonic FZ2000 too heavy. She actually has become quite proficient in maxing the quality from it. But on a recent trip I handed her my Fuji x20 and she was very impressed how light it was….…  ..oh Eck! |
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Eric
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These days I cannot be trusted with choices of which camera or anything else it seems! Went to buy a new sofa in a store some miles away. Did all the paperwork, went to pay the deposit and the credit card was declined. Tried twice (or two times for those who don’t understand old English) and this time I noticed it said wrong pin….one more go. I didn’t risk it I said I would phone him to bypass the pin. I couldn’t find my mobile. Set off home to find phone and sort card. On the way, Jan asked which card I used and I said “the green one”. “ which green one? You’ve got two!”  Yup I had used my credit card pin on my debit card.  Got home….found the phone. Phew Rang the guy and gave him the credit card info….declined! “ What the *****…I used this ok yesterday at the dentist!!! “ Eventually discovered I had inadvertently frozen the online/remote use option…just that option.  Rang the store again and this time it went through ok. Store rang me a few hours later. “You are not having a good day Mr Field”. “Why?” “ we found your driving licence under the desk” “ put it in the letter with my receipt “. “ sorry we have posted that already” “See you tomorrow morning” I think I need minder! Perhaps someone fit enough to lug around all my camera gear as well.  |
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chrisbet
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You are not alone! On my last Italian trip I went to use my Italian debit card which I keep in a travel wallet with passport etc., etc. - tapped card on reader in the winery , entered PIN I know is right - message on reader says "special conditions" - what the heck - tried again, same result. Fortunately I had the cash so paid anyway. Get back to stables and double checked the PIN - used right one - then I realised I had used the old card that had expired ..... duh! The new one was in the wallet as well - should have thrown the old one out. |
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