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| Posted: Sat Apr 8th, 2023 22:52 |
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novicius
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Among other things,at times the camera`s do not get the white balance right,no matter what I try , but my smart phone gets it right the first time. I thought it was just me being a klutz, but then I read this here article : https://petapixel.com/2023/04/05/what-canon-nikon-and-sony-need-to-learn-from-apple-and-google-before-its-too-late/?fbclid=IwAR1NHAud490d2QJozZKINptVOpkxlLSL2zHWr2Xi1iQSdnt295txsq4bXsI Can you see his point ?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 9th, 2023 13:33 |
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chrisbet
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No - if I want an auto snap I use the phone camera - if I want to be in control then I use the Nikon - the great thing is that nowdays with digital cameras you can review the results and adjust accordingly.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 9th, 2023 20:48 |
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Eric
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I think they are unfairly comparing apples with pears. If you can fill the frame with the subject using an iPhone camera and view it on a computer screen, you can get a good reproduction of what you saw. Attempt to crop or sectionally enlarge and the image quality drops off rapidly. There are novel supposed manual control features like fstop ‘selection’…..wrong. It’s a software blur filter to approximate control of the depth of focus. Trouble is, it tends to mess up the selection areas, causing edge effects of incorrect focus. Clever but no cigar! Working with small sensors, wide apertures and fast shutter speeds phones achieve a clever balancing act of subject/camera stability, light gathering and focus depth. But try to intervene and take real control for specific photographic results and you need something more. It’s all about being ‘fit for purpose’.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10th, 2023 13:52 |
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Iain
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Eric wrote:I think they are unfairly comparing apples with pears. I agree. My son used to ask me to print a photo off his phone to A4, IQ c**p. He eventually learned and got a proper camera.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22nd, 2023 02:35 |
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novicius
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No-one has read the article then..it is not about the phone being a camera,it is about camera software vs. phone software, where the phone`s software is vastly superior ,white balance is one of many areas where camera mfgrs. can learn a great deal among many other things,and it is not about price either as phones can be a rather costly commodity.
____________________ Back in Danmark I do not use my equipment to make photo`s .. I take photo`s to use my equipment The better I become at photography,the better my camera gets. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22nd, 2023 11:45 |
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chrisbet
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Yes, I read the article. He lost credibilty for me when he said - "Wouldn’t it be great if your camera downloaded the local weather and automatically configured your camera settings? Yes, most modern cameras try to guess what the white balance should be, but why guess? Just check if it’s cloudy." - anyone who relies on weather forecasts to predict local weather is loony and suggesting that clouds are the only factor in changing white balance suggests he has no idea what he is talking about. Phone software is optimised for phones - just because the phone with its software is "better"? at getting the white balance automatically doesn't mean that the camera software is inferior. Cameras take more user involvement to attain the same or better wb. You can also bracket wb and select the most pleasing / accurate. The point I was making is that the camera and its software gives me greater creative control whereas the phone and its software is better for "instant" snaps where I have no time to set up. Having better "auto" software in the camera is irrelevant for me as I don't use auto mode.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22nd, 2023 14:52 |
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Eric
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I thought what he is trying to say is because the phones software is better at getting settings right for the phones camera, the camera manufacturers need to catch up. That might be true. What he is not saying is that despite some software superiority there are some howling omissions that prevent a phone being the camera of choice for most serious photographers. Yes I know people have done professional photos and videos using phones and make excellent results but they do it by managing the phone/software limitations to almost prove it can be done. As I said earlier, I would never choose a camera for serious work that did not allow the user to change apertures. The iPhone 14 pro doesn’t !
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25th, 2023 15:17 |
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jk
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Eric wrote:I thought what he is trying to say is because the phones software is better at getting settings right for the phones camera, the camera manufacturers need to catch up. That might be true. I agree with Eric. However there is a nice free app for the iPhone that allows you to control most features like a normal/proper camera. See Apple AppStore.. Manual Camera 4 https://apps.apple.com/en/app/manual-camera-4/id916568801
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25th, 2023 15:41 |
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chrisbet
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jk wrote:However there is a nice free app for the iPhone Erm can I have some "free" fivers??
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25th, 2023 16:05 |
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jk
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I got mine so long ago it is/was free! Well worth a £5 Alternative is.... https://apps.apple.com/en/app/manual-raw-camera/id917146276 Cheaper at £3.99 or with ads it is free.
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