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Posted: Fri Feb 26th, 2021 02:50
 
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I've always thought that the dynamic range of a sensor was simply the number of discernibility tone steps it could see.
Whether you capture all those tones in your image is down to your selected camera settings, the lighting and other environmental factors. 

It's then possible to digitally manipulate the captured file to potentially recover less discernible tonal detail.

I would be very surprised if any camera achieved its full potential in the hands of the average photographer.



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I still do not understand why that fantastic d850 sensor is not found in the D6...perhaps something to do with the remarks about labtests vs. Outthere..



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For some reason Nikon dont seem to think that their flagship model needs to have the highest number of megapixels as it was only bought by news journalists and sports photographers who need to have clean high iso images and smaller MP.
For a sports photographer and indeed many photographers 25-30MP is enough especially if you compose the image well.
The higher MP are used by product, fashion and landscape photographers who dont need such robust cameras as their competitors (other pjs) tend to be less aggressive.  I can remember some photographers 'assaulting' other photographers with their cameras so they could get the best spot for the likely photos!  Those were the days when you could freelance and maybe get a great photo that would give you £400-700 for a lucky premium shot!



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As I've said before, 16-20mp is enough for most things. So the 16mp (D4) or 20mp (D5) do most things and at a speed that is needed for sports/wildlife etc.

 




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Having to crush 45MP images to send back to newspaper or agency is a pain better to just KISS it and have lower resolution MP image and it also allows for larger photosites so less shadow noise.  All important in pj work when you might be shooting at high ISO.
Nikon will sell loads more cameras to photojournalists, wildlife and sports photographers than to landscape and architectural photographers!
Also like Eric and I have said so often.  Most of the time if the image is well composed then 25MP is more than enough.
That said in my landscape images 45MP is great but 100MP would be better! Going to need bigger computer, more hard disk space, better monitor, more, more, more!  Sometimes enough is enough!



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jk wrote:
Having to crush 45MP images to send back to newspaper or agency is a pain better to just KISS it and have lower resolution MP image and it also allows for larger photosites so less shadow noise.  All important in pj work when you might be shooting at high ISO.
Nikon will sell loads more cameras to photojournalists, wildlife and sports photographers than to landscape and architectural photographers!
Also like Eric and I have said so often.  Most of the time if the image is well composed then 25MP is more than enough.
That said in my landscape images 45MP is great but 100MP would be better! Going to need bigger computer, more hard disk space, better monitor, more, more, more!  Sometimes enough is enough!

The only possible justification for 50mp is when hard cropping-in is necessary or the final print is going to be 'wall size'. **

If you are able to get close enough to your subject (with camera position or focal length) to fill the frame such that no subsequent cropping is required, then 25mp is fine. Similarly if you are only printing upto A0.  

Disappointingly, many of the new functions that are desirable/useful only come on the expensive models.... along with the high mega pixels specs.
The D850 is a case in point.


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Even then, the viewers perception of quality and the viewing situation can counter this. I had one of my D1X 3mp images of a clients articulated lorry projected across the end wall of a major London exhibition centre hosting a haulage expo back in the day. I never saw the projection and I bet purists would have cringed but my client was chuffed to bits....and got loads of business.  That's what mattered.



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I've seen D3 images done up to poster size and they were fine. In the last few weeks I've been taking wildlife images on the D3/4 at 1600iso and they are clean even if I crop in a bit. That for me is the difference with full frame and not too many pixels.

 




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I had one of my D2X images blown up to 60"x30" image and it sold for €1500.  The D3 can easily do the same as it is about the image being correctly exposed and the final crop isnt too huge.
It is when you want to make a really nice wall poster at 40x30" and you want it to be really fine grained.  Most modern quality cameras can deliver suitable images.

I have the D850 and Z7 I cant honestly tell the difference between them but I can look at a Hasselblad or Fuji GFX image and tell the difference instantly.  Larger sensor 44x33mm at 50MP makes for really fine images, and that is compared to the Z7 at 45MP so it is also about sensor size as well.



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I'm glad this topic has raised a constructive discussion, just sorry I haven't been about to contribute.



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Well Robert now you are back I am sure you will keep us on the straight and narrow.



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