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Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:23
 
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Keep D500 it is 'the birding camera'.  The Z6 is a fine video camera and stills camera but there are occasions where mirrorless is deficient.  This is really shown up when you do against the light shooting.



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So I'm not going to quote replies as it'd get quite messy, but overall I find the arguments for mirrorless or not mirrorless for me have nothing much to do with weight.

It's actually size.

The thing that stops me taking photos with a proper camera is more of a size issue than anything else, I find the Z6 and the collapsible 24-70 F4 give me something I can 'throw' in a bag and take with me that was more compact than my older options.

Otherwise, it's just to easy to default to my iPhone XS, which can deliver surprisingly good images in good light.

Also, for me, part of the issue is that I'm a little more limited on kit. I couldn't afford a D850 and D500 or derivative thereof, yes I did have a very capable D600, but the video was atrocious, and I need that nowadays.

I like the jack of all trades aspect of mirrorless, I think it does that better with less compromise than most options.

 




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In addition to my last post, it looks like an updated lens roadmap has leaked for the Z series, some very interesting propositions, nice to see Nikon doubling down on 1.2 vs 1.4

https://nikonrumors.com/2019/09/05/new-2020-2012-nikon-nikkor-z-s-line-lens-roadmap-leaked.aspx/

 




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chrishamer wrote:
So I'm not going to quote replies as it'd get quite messy, but overall I find the arguments for mirrorless or not mirrorless for me have nothing much to do with weight.

It's actually size.

The thing that stops me taking photos with a proper camera is more of a size issue than  anything else, I find the Z6 and the collapsible 24-70 F4 give me something I can 'throw' in a bag and take with me that was more compact than my older options.

Otherwise, it's just to easy to default to my iPhone XS, which can deliver surprisingly good images in good light.

Also, for me, part of the issue is that I'm a little more limited on kit. I couldn't afford a D850 and D500 or derivative thereof, yes I did have a very capable D600, but the video was atrocious, and I need that nowadays.

I like the jack of all trades aspect of mirrorless, I think it does that better with less compromise than most options.

You are being very persuasive, Chris. (Damn you!.:lol:)



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Like most things in life if you want to make rationale choices then you need to be able to describe what you must have!   From that point you have your 'requirements' that you can validate your choices against.


Please note the 650 in HoP have no clue what they want, only what they dont want and that isnt very clear! Hence the current Brexit disaster situation.



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jk wrote:
Please note the 650 in HoP have no clue what they want, only what they dont want and that isnt very clear! Hence the current Brexit disaster situation.
Oh, I think they know exactly what they want - the trouble is that it would threaten their political careers if they came out and said it!

Some aim to make capital out of leave, others aim to make capital out of remain - then we have the overlying for of party politics. It will all end in tears for some.

What really bugs me is that ONLY 17.4 million of the voting population voted to leave the EU - the other 29 million of the voting public did NOT vote to leave - totally off topic .... :offtopic:



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Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 16:42
 
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My point was/is, like so many things in life, you can drift to a solution, but if you know what you want before you depart, it is easier to go straight there rather than meandering.



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Eric wrote:
You are being very persuasive, Chris. (Damn you!.:lol:)

Haha, I'll take that as a compliment.

 




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My point was/is, like so many things in life, you can drift to a solution, but if you know what you want before you depart, it is easier to go straight there rather than meandering.
Wow that's very sagacious Jonathan. You haven't become a Buddhist in Cornwall have you? :lol:



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Sorry Eric but I have been a Buddhist most of my life.  
Blame going to pre-school where I was taught by nuns and the public school where headmaster was son of Archbishop of Canterbury!

Actually there is nothing wrong with drifting to a solution as much is learned during this process.  It is something that many business leaders dont understand.  However as an IT consultant in business process and re-engineering systems and processes I have also seen many failures due to people not understanding what they really, really want rather than trying to cherry pick technology features.  Somewhere in between is a good balance.  I still need to find it.

I know that my photographic meanderings mean that I have 'too much kit', as being abroad I couldnt sell or px very easily.  However I occasionally do use the old piece of kit which makes it useful if not particularly cost efficient.



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