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Posted: Sun Sep 1st, 2019 15:02
 
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There is a months free trial so I trying it out, I have no doubt it will do the job...  It's more a matter of whether I can get the hang of it sufficiently to get it to do what I want.  One of it's main claims is that it's intuitive, perhaps I am lacking something but I can't use it at all without constant reference to the tutorial videos.

If it ever 'clicks' I will have fun, otherwise I may look for another software.  Dreamweaver used to be the one but since Adobe got it the price has become unreachable.

I really ought to start a new thread, rather than hogging Chris's mirrorless discussion.

You can do it all with simple html code.  I will take a look at Freeway 7 and see how I find it but I cant do it at present as I have just bought another house and I have builders in the other one.  Lots of stuff to do.



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Thanks JK,  no rush, I have started another thread.

Sorry Chris.



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Iain wrote:
Eric said
“The third point is very important and I find this is also a key driver for me. I find it difficult to self start unless I make a project for myself but I can be distracted by other things!

Maybe we all need to discuss this in more detail in a separate thread as we all seem to suffer from this in differing amounts“

I feel the same since I stopped working professionally.


Interesting what you've all said, obviously not something I've come up against but can certainly empathise.

 




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chrishamer wrote:
Interesting what you've all said, obviously not something I've come up against but can certainly empathise.
Give it a few more years Chris.:lol:



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This thread has sparked some re examination of the weight saving with Nikon mirrorless.

The issue for me has always been the combined weight of DSLR lenses when added to the body weight. There are two DSLR ways to lessening that weight....get a lower spec body or a lower spec lens.....or both! (Ok that's three 😆)

For the body, the 675g Z7 body is clearly lighter than the 1005g D850..... but the 675g Z6 is not that much lighter than for example the 750g D750.

The lens contribution is in some ways simpler but also, at the same time, more complicated. 
Because the Z lens range currently covers only 14-70, focal lengths, beyond this the lenses are going to be the same = weight for both systems. ( except the extra weight for the Z-F connector). But within the 14-70 DSLR range there are a plethora of different quality and hence weight lenses, that you could use to compare with the Z offerings, just to make life more difficult. So for the moment, the real weight saving stops at the body and 70mm.

I accept that the respective performances of both camera body and lens quality, muddy the comparison water. But if weight is a greater driving force than absolute performance, and frankly for amateur use there are a lot of excellent alternatives to fit most bills, then there are ways to lessen the DSLR load without going to mirrorless. 

My main motivation for mirrorless would be the wysiwyg exp. comp.



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I am still thinking about mirrorless as quite a few of the guys i know have changed over and are producing great wildlife shots.

The big thing for me is I would need to try it for a few weeks to be sure.

 




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I dont know if others agree but for me I find that DX provides a better solution than FX when I am birding but for motorsport either work very well.


Well if you go Fuji the XT3 is better again for AF performance.  The 100-400 lens is good and if you use the TCx1.4 with it you get a FX equivalent of a ~200-840.  However the lens is a heavyweight beast (1375g) for a Fuji and then add the camera body (539g).



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Iain wrote:
I am still thinking about mirrorless as quite a few of the guys i know have changed over and are producing great wildlife shots.

The big thing for me is I would need to try it for a few weeks to be sure.

That's the point I was making earlier...to some extent it doesn't matter what camera you have.

As Ella said....“T'aint what you do, it's the way that you do it”.:thumbs:

I'm sure if we were ranking camera's performance for wildlife, the D500 would come top of everyone's list. But a D850 or Z7 in the right hands and situation will not be far behind....if at all.

And remember, the only weight saving is the difference between the Nikon bodies when using focal lengths above 70mm.

D500.... 760g
Z bodies ....675g, plus ZF adapter weight!

Having tried the Fuji 100-400 on an XT2 I was not impressed with speed and balance. The XT3 may well be better, but you then need to buy their lenses.


And at the risk of offending some...... WEX happily offer 28days unconditional return on all new sales. I had a Z7 for a week before I decided it wasn't what I wanted for wildlife. They picked it up and refunded in total.   It's a fact of internet selling life and covered by the remote purchasing law. So I don't have any qualms about doing it occasionally.



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So what camera are you using these days Eric?
You have me confused with all the options you have been considering.



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jk wrote:
So what camera are you using these days Eric?
You have me confused with all the options you have been considering.

I confuse myself. :lol:

D850
D500
Fuji XE (IR)

I tried the Z7 but at the time I (blinkedly) expected it to work for birding as well as general use....sent it back as I wasn't happy with it for long lens use. I have since learnt that it's shortcomings were probably 75% due to my rustiness on bird photographic technique and proximity to the subjects.

I really prefer using the D850 (apart from file size) and only use the D500 for the DX factor when birding (which is very rare these days). With these points in mind I am debating whether I should keep the D500 or px it for a Z6. Cropping the D850 images would still work in lieu of DX factor.

On the other hand I may consider pxing the D850 for a Z7 ....as it would give weight saving and the other benefits of mirrorless. The D500 could then stay attached to 500mm + TC for those long reach moments. The dilemma for me is that I do like the D850 and it might be a bridge burning too far 😆....but I don't want to just ADD another body to the cupboard. 😠 

In fact the Fuji IR will soon go on eBay as my interest has waned. So maybe the few quid I get for that might stir me towards one of the Z kits anyway.

In addition, I won on the premium bonds this week!   So that's another £25 towards one. :lol:



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