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Posted: Wed Dec 26th, 2018 11:29
 
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With the Nikon cameras it also matters hugely which chipset (EXPEED) is in the camera. I always have High ISO noise reduction set to Off.


Jeff, are you using Imagenomic Noiseware on the mouse image?
I have a copy of it but never used it as I had NoiseNinja then found that in Bibble there were better plugin available but I use Capture One Pro v12 which has all sorts of goodies built in.

I took some daylight images today on the Z7 at 6400ISO but also most at ISO800. I will compare results. The Z7, D850, D500 have EXPEED5 chipset. Earlier cameras D4, D750 have Expeed4 and D800, D600, D3 have Expeed3.





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I must be honest, I was avid raw user except for the press/sport when time or lack of it made it the best option.
But the D500 has changed that. I now shot jpeg for wildlife having shot the same image in raw and jpeg adjusted them both and found that there was no difference.
As for noise I have my D500 set on normal and you have seen the results.

 




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I agree that D500 works well. To be honest I only shoot RAW for best results should I want to make a large enlargement which is infrequent these days.

I am wondering if Eric has a sub-standard D500. I dont know how to check.



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Yes Jonathon I tend to use imageonic n/r on all shots , but lightrooms own de.noise isn't to bad either tbh

 




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Interesting. I will need to investigate Noiseware.



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jk wrote:
Interesting. I will need to investigate Noiseware.

Take a look at the previous iteration of NIK filters via Lightroom. I understand the current 'paid for' filters have been dumbed down or messed with. The previous version are good.



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Gardens of Heligan, Cornwall.  Light show.
No noise reduction on these images.

Attachment: Z7-1-0933.jpg (Downloaded 18 times)



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Another one.

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All shot on Z7 at ISO6400, 1/60th or there abouts f4.

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Robert wrote:
Just passing...

I have notice with alarm that you keep saying you save as JPEG, "it will be 'good enough'" If I may say so it WON'T be 'good enough', you are complaining about IQ, use the highest quality NEF's you can lay your hands on just for starters, and leave the noise reduction for the computer. The available choice of NR software is far greater and infinitely more controllable than what the camera has to offer. Use layers and masking, you are the expert in that department yet you seem to be missing it.

OK you are fed up with using computers but if you want the good results in my view it's the only way.

Off to the tip! :lol:


Not sure if that remark was addressed to me or Jeff?

I HAVE been shooting raw on recent images and there's no difference in the outputted image quality to computer. There is nothing wrong with saving files as JPEGs.

The whole publishing industry demands the supply of images in JPEGs format. Send a NEF file to a magazine and they will reject it.

In fact these days they frequently want png files.

The whole point about raw files is they enable YOU to make whatever corrections you think need doing ....corrections that you or the camera didn't do at the time of the exposure. My point is ...the captured images are not good enough irrespective of file format.

The risk with compressed files is the degree and repeated application of this compression by repeated resaving.

In my early years of supplying digital artwork I did repeated and exhaustive test on the effect on quality of the degree of jpeg compression and multiple circles thereof.

I fear the jpeg is not the bogeyman many would have us believe.

Of course it's not good practise to save part processed WIP images in any compressed format. But there's nothing wrong in saving finished files in jpeg. Arguably thts what the camera assumes you require...a finished jpeg.


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