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Posted: Wed Aug 30th, 2017 03:44
 
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I like the strategic parking!



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Yes, very interesting parking indeed! :lol:

Ah, so that's what that one does! I've only really used color efex for basic adjustments, not really investigated the nitty gritty bits.

 




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When it became obvious the rain was going to get heavy I decided to park... Strategically... To avoid needing waders to get out if it did ever fair up! Christopher wasn't so lucky! :lol:

There are several tutorial available. I watched several before I really got the hang of the finer points. Everybody has their own needs and ways of working, their objectives are often different too so there is no, one size fits all.

this is one fairly comprehensive video which gives a pretty good idea of what the various components of the NIK filter can achieve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gikVjBnpTRQ

Do a quick search and many others will appear.



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Eric, Did you have VR on? As has been said start with a loose frame to get practice then zoom in tighter once you have got used to it.

 




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Iain wrote:
Eric, Did you have VR on? As has been said start with a loose frame to get practice then zoom in tighter once you have got used to it.
Yes .....didn't think about it .
1/1000 shutter speed used.... which I gather some people feel might degrade sharpness if VR on.



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I struggle to remember turning VR on and off, 1,000 sec should stop any movement, VR will just be fluttering trying to make sense of the event. VR definitely degrades my panning race car shots if I forget and leave it on.

A bit like panning with a video camera with IS turned on. The image jumps about because the IS is trying to stabilise it but can't.

My current strategy is to leave VR off and just turn it on for occasions when I may need it. It isn't smart enough, VR should be able to sense if you are panning and cut out on those occasions. The AF can tell what you are doing, it should message the VR and inform it there is a panning shot in progress.



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Robert wrote:
I struggle to remember turning VR on and off, 1,000 sec should stop any movement, VR will just be fluttering trying to make sense of the event. VR definitely degrades my panning race car shots if I forget and leave it on.

A bit like panning with a video camera with IS turned on. The image jumps about because the IS is trying to stabilise it but can't.

My current strategy is to leave VR off and just turn it on for occasions when I may need it. It isn't smart enough, VR should be able to sense if you are panning and cut out on those occasions. The AF can tell what you are doing, it should message the VR and inform it there is a panning shot in progress.


That's because you have the image stabilisation set to ALL directions.
On Fuji and Panasonic cameras (can't remember Nikon) you have 3options:
Off, All directions , vertical only.....which allows smooth sideways movement. ;-)


I've been reading a lot of reports on the impact of VR when used with fast shutterspeeds. While there is universal agreement that it should be OFF on a tripod and ON when handheld at slow shutter speeds or on a monopod, there seems to be no such agreement with the notion that fast shutterspeeds and VR together downgrade the image quality. Arguments being that the fast shutter speeds will have operated before the VR kicks in. I suppose that may depend on how long you hold the half depress???

The use of VR at high shutter speeds would seem to be more about it being an unnecessary use of battery.

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I keep VR switched off on my telephoto lenses like 70-200 but have it on for my 24-120 f4.
Like I have said many times before it is great for your average punter who wants to just shoot but if you make definite choices about shutter speed, aperture, tripod/hand held, etc then VR needs to be another parameter that you consider.
Given a choice I would prefer a cheaper cost of lens versus the same specification lens with VR.
Just me.



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jk wrote:
I keep VR switched off on my telephoto lenses like 70-200 but have it on for my 24-120 f4.
Like I have said many times before it is great for your average punter who wants to just shoot but if you make definite choices about shutter speed, aperture, tripod/hand held, etc then VR needs to be another parameter that you consider.
Given a choice I would prefer a cheaper cost of lens versus the same specification lens with VR.
Just me.


I've got it on all my lenses, not through specific choice, but because the lens I wanted had it anyway. I leave it on for no other reason that I wouldn't remember to switch it on when if I DID need it.



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Although I have different settings for vr I tend to turn it off for bif.

 

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