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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 03:24 |
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Robert
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I have been able to renew my motorsport photography thanks to my son's new job with a local race team, Coastal Racing who race a team of Mini's in the national Mini Challenge series. I am able to tag along. I am visiting race tracks which I have never been to before, learning where the best vantage points are etc. One of the problems I am encountering is catch fencing, it seems to be everywhere I want to be. It's impractical to get permits to access the press areas, so I have to make the best of what I can. I took some photo's at Donington through the catch fencing of the chicane before the start finish straight. Some potential for interesting images with most at least lifting a wheel and several going well onto two wheels. The fencing spoils the images, even using my Nikkor 300mm f2.8 fairly wide. It's difficult to do much in post processing to remove it. This was taken at the chicane, the effect is less noticeable than the second image but it's there, the right hand side of the car has lower definition than the left. I was also fairly close to the fence, but I dumped 80% of the otherwise quite usable images because of the fence issue.  A fairly strong example of the effect of taking photographs through the catch fencing.  Last night I read a tip which may solve the issue... By spraying the fence with black paint it's less conspicuous and more practical than discretely cutting a hole in the fence, which isn't really a solution with a 300 f2.8 to poke through. Anybody got a better solution? Mostly the fences are over 12 feet high and very robust with girder posts and heavy bracing. Like the one in the background.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 04:24 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:I have been able to renew my motorsport photography thanks to my son's new job with a local race team, Coastal Racing who race a team of Mini's in the national Mini Challenge series. I am able to tag along. I am surprised the fence is so obvious in the second image. There seems a lot of dof on that image, was the aperture stopped down? I've shot through many fences without a lot of issues by simply following the known strategy.....max aperture, long focal length, lens touching wire, sun behind the camera. Of course the diameter of the lens relative to the mesh size will play a part. You might find using a smaller diameter zoom lens like the superb consumer 70-300 lens, might be better than the big prime ...despite it having smaller max aperture...especially if on a DX body. I'm guessing you used the D3 with the 300? Situations like this MIGHT be the Achilles heel for pro equipment?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 04:25 |
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jk
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Robert, if you get right up to the catch fencing then if you press the lens hood against the wire fencing then it disappears! Serious  An alternative is to go to the racing team manager and say to him that you will provide them with images for the team use but you need better access. A press pass or racing team access pass will get you into press areas. 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 05:20 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:
The first image of the Mini was D3, Nikkor 300mm 2.8 @ f11, 1/1000Sec, ISO 500. Fence was about 1 to 2 ft away, about 2 inch mesh. The second of the pickup was D3, Nikkor 300mm 2.8 @ f8, 1/1000Sec, ISO 1800. Fence was about 6 to 10 ft away at a guess. Since I can crank up the ISO on the D3 and still retain outstanding IQ, I have been taking advantage of using M, setting the lens for DoF and adjusting the shutter speed for getting suitable movement blur of the wheels and background while panning, leaving auto ISO to deal with the exposure. Using an MF 300, I am selecting a spot on the tarmac or a landmark of some sort then taking several quick exposures as the cars pass that point. That way I get a choice of what's sharp. Trouble with locked on AF is that the camera decides whats going to be sharp. In my opinion MF has some advantages for this. What I need to do is hone my techniques to suit the job. Which is what it's all about really. By the end of the season I'm hopeful I may get some keepers! 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 05:36 |
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Robert
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jk wrote:Robert, if you get right up to the catch fencing then if you press the lens hood against the wire fencing then it disappears! Good point, if no light can reach the fence wire it can't be reflected back to the sensor... A nice long lens hood adaptor... Roll of Lino anybody? Am sure a two foot lens hood would solve this. Off to the workshop... jk wrote: An alternative is to go to the racing team manager and say to him that you will provide them with images for the team use but you need better access. A press pass or racing team access pass will get you into press areas. I have looked at this, on practice/testing days you can actually get away with quite a lot, but on race days when the public are admitted the security is very tight, they are talking £5 Million Public liability insurance if you can persuade them to give you a pass. Going official gets very expensive very quickly. I get at least one testing day per meeting, so I need to take advantage of that. Just for getting pix of the cars that's OK but there is no substitute for racing proper.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 05:55 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: You really need to be up against the mesh and open up to 5.6 or 4. Take a look at this image. There WAS a wire mesh between us. Lol If you look in the top left there is a sort of moire effect where the mesh in the other side of the compound is interacting with the mesh between us. I was up against the mesh for the photo ...and 20 paces back when it leapt at the mesh and me! Attachment: image.jpeg (Downloaded 21 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 06:26 |
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Robert
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Thanks Eric, will try to improve the technique, larger aperture and closer to mesh, will try the black spray paint too... Touching the mesh of the catch fence is hard because there is secondary fencing to keep people about 3 feet back from the catch fences but in places that can be got around. Off to Rockingham near Corby in Northamptonshire on Thursday afternoon, Friday practice then two days of racing. There seems to be more catch fencing there than you can shake a stick at!!! Am thinking of taking a bike this time, not had time to make a buggy.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 06:39 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Thanks Eric, will try to improve the technique, larger aperture and closer to mesh, will try the black spray paint too... From memory that wasn't the case at Cadwell Park?? I thought it was quite mesh free?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 06:49 |
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Eric
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You could of course switch sports to motor cross. A picket fence you can lean on is all the protection you get.  Attachment: image.jpeg (Downloaded 19 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2016 06:51 |
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Eric
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Here's another Attachment: image.jpeg (Downloaded 19 times)
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