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You can't really take the new cameras in isolation, while they will take the old lenses, and push them to the limits and beyond, for that many of us can be thankful!

However the cards are an integral part of the camera system in this case. Not having experienced 14bit 45megapixel images I can only imagine the stress that imposes on the computer. I suspect anyone producing large volumes of these images must need prodigious storage capacity and very powerful processors.

Unless anyone really needs the ultra high resolution I would have thought the Z6 would satisfy most photographers needs.



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Robert wrote:
I suspect anyone producing large volumes of these images must need prodigious storage capacity and very powerful processors.

Or a machine gun, if they think firing relentlessly is the answer.



Unless anyone really needs the ultra high resolution I would have thought the Z6 would satisfy most photographers needs.


That's my feeling...and probably choice
24mp on a full frame has long been the perceived sweet spot. It will be interesting to see if that still holds true with the Zbods.
My concern with the 45mp on a lightweight body is the risk of sloppy technique, ruining the benefit of the extra mp.



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Eric wrote: Robert wrote:
I suspect anyone producing large volumes of these images must need prodigious storage capacity and very powerful processors.

Or a machine gun, if they think firing relentlessly is the answer.



Unless anyone really needs the ultra high resolution I would have thought the Z6 would satisfy most photographers needs.


That's my feeling...and probably choice
24mp on a full frame has long been the perceived sweet spot. It will be interesting to see if that still holds true with the Zbods.
My concern with the 45mp on a lightweight body is the risk of sloppy technique, ruining the benefit of the extra mp.


Yes I certainly agree with both of you wrt to machine gunning.

My D850 is used selectively and only where I really want/need this extra resolution.  I am using it currently as all my other gear is in UK and I just have my alternative lenses and the D850 and 24-120 with me here in Spain.

The 24MP from my D600 if framed correctly gives great results, but the D800 and D850 dive comfort for cropping!



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Eric wrote: Robert wrote:
I suspect anyone producing large volumes of these images must need prodigious storage capacity and very powerful processors.

Or a machine gun, if they think firing relentlessly is the answer.



Unless anyone really needs the ultra high resolution I would have thought the Z6 would satisfy most photographers needs.


That's my feeling...and probably choice
24mp on a full frame has long been the perceived sweet spot. It will be interesting to see if that still holds true with the Zbods.
My concern with the 45mp on a lightweight body is the risk of sloppy technique, ruining the benefit of the extra mp.


Yes I certainly agree with both of you wrt to machine gunning.

My D850 is used selectively and only where I really want/need this extra resolution.  I am using it currently as all my other gear is in UK and I just have my alternative lenses and the D850 and 24-120 with me here in Spain.

The 24MP from my D600 if framed correctly gives great results, but the D800 and D850 dive comfort for cropping!



The debate has always been, whether high density pixel sensors are suitable for day to day photography as opposed to special event work, because of the greater precision in technique to maximise their potential quality.

I have long thought a 24mp full frame is ideal for general photography. The D750 fulfilled this role admirably for me for some time. To be honest I am kicking myself I got rid of it to 'concentrate' on Fuji. But that's another story.



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In a sense you already have a high density sensor in the D500, if the motivation for FX high density sensor to allow maximum cropping then why bother with a large sensor and throw the image periphery away, is the question I ask myself.

I think the Z6 looses out very slightly in ISO and dynamic range but otherwise it's as good as the Z7.

I'm surprised there is no word of a provincial Roadshow series, like when they launched the D5 - D500. The D3 sensor could do with another good clean up! LOL



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In a sense you already have a high density sensor in the D500, if the motivation for FX high density sensor to allow maximum cropping then why bother with a large sensor and throw the image periphery away, is the question I ask myself.



Yes I realise the D500 itself is high density and that's exactly why I want a lesser density sensor on a walk around camera. I could quite happily dedicate the D500 solely to wildlife and sports where, dare I say it, I would be more precise in my technique.:-)

But as you know with the D3, a full frame camera is so much 'nicer' to use. So I may well have a look at the Z6 to fulfil both that requirement and the lighter weight. But if it doesn't pass muster, I may go back to a D750 or a D610 for general stuff.

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Two caveats.
1. Yes the D500 is a DX sensor but only 21MP.

2. I dont think that a mirrorless camera will match the AF speed of a DSLR with current technology.



I think that you need to get the Z6 or Z7 and test for general use then decide if it works for birding.

If you want to meet up sometime after if get my Z7 then you are welcome to test on the day as I will use D850 or XT2.



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jk wrote:
Two caveats.
1. Yes the D500 is a DX sensor but only 21MP.

2. I dont think that a mirrorless camera will match the AF speed of a DSLR with current technology.



I think that you need to get the Z6 or Z7 and test for general use then decide if it works for birding.

If you want to meet up sometime after if get my Z7 then you are welcome to test on the day as I will use D850 or XT2.



I would probably be happy to just have a Z6 for general use and keep the D500 for birding/sport etc for now. I would be surprised if the cropability and functionality of even the Z7 matched the D850. But will wait to see.

There are loose plans for us birding forum members to meet up in early October on NNorfolk Coast ....you are more than welcome to join us...as are ANY members. It could turn into a camera/lens evaluation day ....which would clear all the twitchers out of the hide.

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Even with my recent offering I don't think I qualify as a bird photographer but I have it pencilled in on my calendar. :thumbs:



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Even with my recent offering I don't think I qualify as a bird photographer but I have it pencilled in on my calendar. :thumbs:

Once you've sat for a few hours in a windy NNorffolk hide on a cold October day...you will :lol:



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