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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 05:32 |
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Eric
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Has the D800 now cemented the belief that cropping an FX sensor is better than a DX body or teleconverter? (OK if the D400 comes along that may change the goalposts again!!!!) I always maintained that cropping my D3 images to a DX size frame was better than using a 1.4x* teleconverter and on a par with the D300 image direct from the camera. Of course the file size was then always smaller which could present problems when using the pictures in large prints (once in a blue moon). As a result my D300 and teleconverters fell into non use. The only downside was the weight and bulk of the D3 in casual use situations. But I am starting to think that after faithful service since its launch, my D3 is approaching retirement/replacement time. The D800 lighter/ less bulky body may bring it into the dual role of professional and holiday use. I have always felt self conscious (more vulnerable?) wealding a D3 and pro lens ensemble in tourist/citylocations....and certainly I never used a tripod. But historically more pixels required more precise technique. I found the 12mp D2X to only be better than the 6mp D1X when used on a tripod! The bigger D3 pixels were more forgiving. Of course the noise free higher ISOs mean faster shutter speeds will help with hand holding. But I would really like to know from D800 owners whether they have experienced any quality 'disappointments' when hand holding? In short, can you use the D800 as a casual walk around body? *( 2x teleconverters were a different story)
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 06:54 |
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jk
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I agree with those sentiments and I think that is the reason why whenever I wheel out my old D1X that I feel very happy with its results. Also I have never been 100% happy with the output from the D300 but I think it is a case of the D3 spoiling my expectations. Results from the D300 always seem to be more noisy and not quite so well rendered as from the D3. I will probably buy a D800 later this year but at present I want to use the Fuji XPro1 which is proving to be very satisfying. 16MP very light shooting JPGs. The Fuji RAW processor is somewhat slow but still useable so I will probably move back to RAW soon and hopefully by then Lightroom and Photoshop ACR will be supporting Fuji XPro1 RAW format.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 09:58 |
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Eric
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jk wrote: I agree with those sentiments and I think that is the reason why whenever I wheel out my old D1X that I feel very happy with its results. I NEARLY bought an XPro but I am just not certain that its the right direction. Sure if it is better than the X100 its going to be brilliant, but its the crossover to telephoto and DSLR that worries me. If I KNOW that my shooting for the day is going to be 24mm, 50mm & 90mm then an XPro with these lenses would be a nice compact lightweight solution. But I find that I invariably need a longer lens with me. Last time on holiday (see Avatar  ) I carried the X100 for wide and the D7000 with a 55-200 zoom. They fulfilled all my colour needs but there were occasions when I tripped over the Fuji peculiarities and difference in function buttons at critical moments, swopping back and forth.Having one body with a range of lenses, or two similar (eg layout of functions ) bodies sharing lenses is still my preferred set up for a casual days shooting. I am taking a revolutionary step in May and ONLY taking the D7000 and 3 lenses. Maybe after that I will have a clearer direction.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 11:20 |
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jk
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The X100 and XP1 are similar concept but the XP1 is better executed. The nice thing is that used as a pair they are perfect for travel. Both camera bodies and a 35mm f1.4 and 60mm f2.4 for the XP1 will weigh no more than the D3 with battery. I do agree that a long telephoto would be good but if you have a Kipon adapter you can add Nikon lenses to the XP1 but you need to shoot them in manual focus mode and also with stop down metering. I am thinking that a D800 will complement this setup very nicely but that the D800 would have a 70-300 AFS VR attached. Having the X100 has convinced me that for landscape work where I predominantly use 20-35mm that I dont need a DSLR as a decent camera such as the XP1 gives me everything.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 11:26 |
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Eric wrote:jk wrote:I agree with those sentiments and I think that is the reason why whenever I wheel out my old D1X that I feel very happy with its results. I only own the D7000 so which camera body to take on trips is easy for me. I always take a Nikon 12-24mm, Nikon 24-70mm, and a Nikon 70-300mm lens and they seem to take care of all my needs. The only problem is my wife complains from time to time about the weight. 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 11:43 |
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jk
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What you make her carry the camera and lens Gary!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 11:47 |
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Squarerigger
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jk wrote:What you make her carry the camera and lens Gary! It's all in the prenuptial agreement she signed 40 years ago. 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 12:11 |
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Robert
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 13:00 |
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Eric
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Squarerigger wrote:jk wrote: Love it! Someone sent me a joke email recently. It showed an elderly man lounging in a comfy chair and idly typing on his laptop. He called out to his wife in the next room "when I die darling, I am going to leave everything to you" The reply came back " you already do ....you lazy b*****d!" Oops I forgot asterisks are also banned on this forum.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 13:06 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:The X100 and XP1 are similar concept but the XP1 is better executed. Hmm you may be right. But if you take the D800 with the 70-300 attached you only need to add the 20-35 anyway? Perhaps we should run a what's the weight, focal reach and workability of your walkaround kit, poll?
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