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Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 02:14

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Dave Groen wrote:
jk wrote:
The tones in Dave Groen's picture are fabulous. Great light and well captured.

Thank you. No photoshop manipulation, just choosing the right time of day (just before sunset) and careful exposure.

My preferred option. Right time of day and correct exposure and little or no Photoshop.

I really dont understand the current fad to Photoshop everything to death.
1 image = take time 1/200 sec plus manipulation time 2 hours.

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Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 11:35

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Eric wrote: Has the D800 now cemented the belief that cropping an FX sensor is better than a DX body or teleconverter? (OK if the D400 comes along that may change the goalposts again!!!!)

I always maintained that cropping my D3 images to a DX size frame was better than using a 1.4x* teleconverter and on a par with the D300 image direct from the camera.

Of course the file size was then always smaller which could present problems when using the pictures in large prints (once in a blue moon). As a result my D300 and teleconverters fell into non use.

The only downside was the weight and bulk of the D3 in casual use situations.

But I am starting to think that after faithful service since its launch, my D3 is approaching retirement/replacement time.

The D800 lighter/ less bulky body may bring it into the dual role of professional and holiday use. I have always felt self conscious (more vulnerable?) wealding a D3 and pro lens ensemble in tourist/citylocations....and certainly I never used a tripod.

But historically more pixels required more precise technique. I found the 12mp D2X to only be better than the 6mp D1X when used on a tripod! The bigger D3 pixels were more forgiving.

Of course the noise free higher ISOs mean faster shutter speeds will help with hand holding. But I would really like to know from D800 owners whether they have experienced any quality 'disappointments' when hand holding?

In short, can you use the D800 as a casual walk around body?

*( 2x teleconverters were a different story)

One thing I think you will run into is that same thing that had me getting the bases for my D700's?? The shorter body like the D800 leaves the little finger hanging out in space, and when I hunched my hand up on the body my index finger kept triggering the Auto Stop Down button.. The second thing was the lack of the vertical release, I really missed that thing, as I have always used Nikon Pro bodies, and when using the D700 named, I am always hunting around for how to fire the shutter when I have to shoot a vertical!!!

Just a thought or two, Eric???

o.O

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Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2012 15:44

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Ray Ninness wrote:
Eric wrote: Has the D800 now cemented the belief that cropping an FX sensor is better than a DX body or teleconverter? (OK if the D400 comes along that may change the goalposts again!!!!)

I always maintained that cropping my D3 images to a DX size frame was better than using a 1.4x* teleconverter and on a par with the D300 image direct from the camera.

Of course the file size was then always smaller which could present problems when using the pictures in large prints (once in a blue moon). As a result my D300 and teleconverters fell into non use.

The only downside was the weight and bulk of the D3 in casual use situations.

But I am starting to think that after faithful service since its launch, my D3 is approaching retirement/replacement time.

The D800 lighter/ less bulky body may bring it into the dual role of professional and holiday use. I have always felt self conscious (more vulnerable?) wealding a D3 and pro lens ensemble in tourist/citylocations....and certainly I never used a tripod.

But historically more pixels required more precise technique. I found the 12mp D2X to only be better than the 6mp D1X when used on a tripod! The bigger D3 pixels were more forgiving.

Of course the noise free higher ISOs mean faster shutter speeds will help with hand holding. But I would really like to know from D800 owners whether they have experienced any quality 'disappointments' when hand holding?

In short, can you use the D800 as a casual walk around body?

*( 2x teleconverters were a different story)

One thing I think you will run into is that same thing that had me getting the bases for my D700's?? The shorter body like the D800 leaves the little finger hanging out in space, and when I hunched my hand up on the body my index finger kept triggering the Auto Stop Down button.. The second thing was the lack of the vertical release, I really missed that thing, as I have always used Nikon Pro bodies, and when using the D700 named, I am always hunting around for how to fire the shutter when I have to shoot a vertical!!!

Just a thought or two, Eric???

o.O

Having used the even smaller D7000 for some time when on vacation, I seem to have cured my wayward pinkie. Using the D200 (as I do for IR) I am quite comfortable without a grip. In fact the D3 seems quite heavy when I have to return to work.

I have a big shoot at a London Hotel next month...I will need to get back into training after the recent month off! ;-)

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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 05:38

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Eric wrote:
Ray Ninness wrote:
Eric wrote: Has the D800 now cemented the belief that cropping an FX sensor is better than a DX body or teleconverter? (OK if the D400 comes along that may change the goalposts again!!!!)

I always maintained that cropping my D3 images to a DX size frame was better than using a 1.4x* teleconverter and on a par with the D300 image direct from the camera.

Of course the file size was then always smaller which could present problems when using the pictures in large prints (once in a blue moon). As a result my D300 and teleconverters fell into non use.

The only downside was the weight and bulk of the D3 in casual use situations.

But I am starting to think that after faithful service since its launch, my D3 is approaching retirement/replacement time.

The D800 lighter/ less bulky body may bring it into the dual role of professional and holiday use. I have always felt self conscious (more vulnerable?) wealding a D3 and pro lens ensemble in tourist/citylocations....and certainly I never used a tripod.

But historically more pixels required more precise technique. I found the 12mp D2X to only be better than the 6mp D1X when used on a tripod! The bigger D3 pixels were more forgiving.

Of course the noise free higher ISOs mean faster shutter speeds will help with hand holding. But I would really like to know from D800 owners whether they have experienced any quality 'disappointments' when hand holding?

In short, can you use the D800 as a casual walk around body?

*( 2x teleconverters were a different story)

One thing I think you will run into is that same thing that had me getting the bases for my D700's?? The shorter body like the D800 leaves the little finger hanging out in space, and when I hunched my hand up on the body my index finger kept triggering the Auto Stop Down button.. The second thing was the lack of the vertical release, I really missed that thing, as I have always used Nikon Pro bodies, and when using the D700 named, I am always hunting around for how to fire the shutter when I have to shoot a vertical!!!

Just a thought or two, Eric???

o.O

I thought you were on the road to retirement Eric?

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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 06:16

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Squarerigger wrote:
Eric wrote:
Ray Ninness wrote:
Eric wrote: Has the D800 now cemented the belief that cropping an FX sensor is better than a DX body or teleconverter? (OK if the D400 comes along that may change the goalposts again!!!!)

I always maintained that cropping my D3 images to a DX size frame was better than using a 1.4x* teleconverter and on a par with the D300 image direct from the camera.

Of course the file size was then always smaller which could present problems when using the pictures in large prints (once in a blue moon). As a result my D300 and teleconverters fell into non use.

The only downside was the weight and bulk of the D3 in casual use situations.

But I am starting to think that after faithful service since its launch, my D3 is approaching retirement/replacement time.

The D800 lighter/ less bulky body may bring it into the dual role of professional and holiday use. I have always felt self conscious (more vulnerable?) wealding a D3 and pro lens ensemble in tourist/citylocations....and certainly I never used a tripod.

But historically more pixels required more precise technique. I found the 12mp D2X to only be better than the 6mp D1X when used on a tripod! The bigger D3 pixels were more forgiving.

Of course the noise free higher ISOs mean faster shutter speeds will help with hand holding. But I would really like to know from D800 owners whether they have experienced any quality 'disappointments' when hand holding?

In short, can you use the D800 as a casual walk around body?

*( 2x teleconverters were a different story)

One thing I think you will run into is that same thing that had me getting the bases for my D700's?? The shorter body like the D800 leaves the little finger hanging out in space, and when I hunched my hand up on the body my index finger kept triggering the Auto Stop Down button.. The second thing was the lack of the vertical release, I really missed that thing, as I have always used Nikon Pro bodies, and when using the D700 named, I am always hunting around for how to fire the shutter when I have to shoot a vertical!!!

Just a thought or two, Eric???

o.O

I thought you were on the road to retirement Eric?

I am, but a month long european tour (11 tankfuls of petrol alone!) have made a hole in the retirement fund that needs refilling....and it's hard to turn down existing clients, when they want to help.
;-)

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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 11:58

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Eric wrote

I am, but a month long european tour (11 tankfuls of petrol alone!) have made a hole in the retirement fund that needs refilling....and it's hard to turn down existing clients, when they want to help.
;-)

He enjoys his work too much.
Now he works for petrol, liquid gold!.

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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 07:51

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jk wrote:
Dave Groen wrote:
There is a button in the center of the AF-M lever on the front below the lens release button. Press this button and use the main and sub-command dials to change focus modes. The mode is shown on the top LCD display. See page 92 in the manual.
Thanks Dave.
I found it last night when I read the manual, not something I do routinely.
Logically I can see the reasoning for the move but ergonomically it is less efficient as the new process requires both hands while the old one required only one thumb.

One of my complaints when I used the D7000, when you are hand holding a heavy lens it becomes a bit ungainly trying to change something that a twitch of a thumb used to do.

Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 08:09

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Likewise with the D3100 having to go to Menu items to do routine things like ISO and re-formatting the CF Card.

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Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 14:56

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I can't resist posting this one. D800 + Nikkor 200 Macro

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Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 15:44

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Very Good Ed, it wins by a hairs breadth... :applause:

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