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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 10:11 |
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Eric wrote: If the bracketing function was capable of a 2EV range it would waste just 1 shot...but at moment (on my D3 at least) its a max on 1EV. I have often wondered why the bracketing ON/OFF wasnt a firmware based operation that could be put on the Customs setting. So for example.... the Fn buttom might be assigned to Bracketing on and off ...rather than just Bracketing Burst. The way it is at the moment where you have to physically switch bracketing on and off witht he range settings is too slow....and leads to you forgetting bracketing has been left on!!!! The D600 gives +-3EV Setting the Continuous shooting mode to 3 and the CL to 5 fps will give 3 quick bracketed shots just pressing the shutter once and when disabling it the BKT can be set to zero All bracketing choices require one normal metered shot so for jk's situation three shot bursts would be required.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 12:21 |
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Eric
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amazing50 wrote:Eric wrote:If the bracketing function was capable of a 2EV range it would waste just 1 shot...but at moment (on my D3 at least) its a max on 1EV. I have often wondered why the bracketing ON/OFF wasnt a firmware based operation that could be put on the Customs setting. So for example.... the Fn buttom might be assigned to Bracketing on and off ...rather than just Bracketing Burst. The way it is at the moment where you have to physically switch bracketing on and off witht he range settings is too slow....and leads to you forgetting bracketing has been left on!!!! No, I meant the EV step size. ...0.3, 0.7 and 1.0EV... not the number of 'F'rames. If there was a 2.0 EV option JK would only need to do 2shots, by setting the exp comp to -0.3 and setting the bracket to +2F ...ie 0 and +2.0.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 14:14 |
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amazing50
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Eric wrote: No, I meant the EV step size. ...0.3, 0.7 and 1.0EV... not the number of 'F'rames. There is a 2.0 EV option and it works by setting the the comp to -.3 with a 2 shot bracket. I just tried it out my front door 2 shots no comp and 2 at -.3 and the shutter speeds confirmed the difference. Since we had about 30cm of snow last night there is a lot of white in the pix 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 14:26 |
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Eric
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amazing50 wrote:Eric wrote:No, I meant the EV step size. ...0.3, 0.7 and 1.0EV... not the number of 'F'rames. Interesting...must be different to the D3. The only way I can get the 2EV difference is to set the Exp Comp to -0.3 and select the +3F option, with the 1EV setting. This takes 3shots.... -0.3, +0.7, +1.7
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 15:58 |
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jk
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But you are using exposure bracketing which means taking many images. I want a situation where I can rapidly change from when a bird is on the bush (-0.3EV) then flies off (+1.7EV). I could set the camera to do a flat exposure and then pull up the shadow area for the birds in flight. I was hoping that Jeff (Blackfox) would have been able to answer this as this is his line of interest but he has not posted.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 16:37 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:But you are using exposure bracketing which means taking many images. I realise that... and understand the implications. But there doesn't seem to be another option available apart from... 1. Bracketing 2. Manually turning dials 3. Post processing from an average. 4. Having two bodies 5. Spot metering 6. Lobby Nikon for a digital exp comp switch. Ok try this .... Set the camera exp comp to -3 Set custom setting B4 to ON Set custom setting B3 to 1 This removes the need to hold the Exp Comp button down and makes the increment 1stop. All you need to do is turn the thumb dial two clicks! :thumbsup:
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 18:09 |
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jk
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Eric wrote: jk wrote:I discounted the above in my thoughts and testing.But you are using exposure bracketing which means taking many images. I want a situation where I can rapidly change from when a bird is on the bush (-0.3EV) then flies off (+1.7EV). I could set the camera to do a flat exposure and then pull up the shadow area for the birds in flight. I was hoping that Jeff (Blackfox) would have been able to answer this as this is his line of interest but he has not posted.I realise that... and understand the implications. But there doesn't seem to be another option available apart from... 1. Bracketing 2. Manually turning dials 3. Post processing from an average. 4. Having two bodies 5. Spot metering Eric wrote: 6. Lobby Nikon for a digital exp comp switch. This seems like a very useful thing to do but at present I think that I need to make sure there is not viable alternative. BTW: On the top Canon body 1DX this is apparently possible by using the customisation of buttons. Eric wrote: Ok try this .... It works! What I needed to do is to ... Set the camera exp comp to +2 Set custom setting B4 to ON Set custom setting B3 to 1 The when I move the rear command dial two clicks left it gives me 0EV and two right from that gives me +2EV back. Problem solved. I think this is what Amazing50 was suggesting that I do the other day. So a big Thank You to both Eric and Amazing50 for their thoughts on this. I have never used Easy Compensation before. Very useful but I need to test more and see how it works in real use. I still think that a customisable button that toggles EV compensation in/out is the best solution.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2014 18:22 |
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jk
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BTW: The settings here are for a D3 or D3S. The values (e.g. B3, B4) of the menu numbers are different in D600 and D800!!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 7th, 2014 05:29 |
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jk
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Been seeing which cameras this can be applied to. It will work on D3, D3S, D800, D700 and D300. D600 is a bit useless as the EV step value is either 1/3 or 1/2 stop with no 1 stop offered but the principle can be applied it just means more clicks of the rear command dial. I was thinking about this late last night and I think I can use the MemoryBanks as well but I then need a Fn switch set up to swap between the A and B memory banks.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 7th, 2014 05:50 |
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Eric
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jk wrote: Eric wrote:I thought you wanted +1.7 and -0.3?jk wrote:I discounted the above in my thoughts and testing.But you are using exposure bracketing which means taking many images. I want a situation where I can rapidly change from when a bird is on the bush (-0.3EV) then flies off (+1.7EV). I could set the camera to do a flat exposure and then pull up the shadow area for the birds in flight. I was hoping that Jeff (Blackfox) would have been able to answer this as this is his line of interest but he has not posted.I realise that... and understand the implications. But there doesn't seem to be another option available apart from... 1. Bracketing 2. Manually turning dials 3. Post processing from an average. 4. Having two bodies 5. Spot meteringEric wrote: 6. Lobby Nikon for a digital exp comp switch. Thats why I said set the Exp comp to -3.  Crazy thing is...I have always had easy compensation set on the camera....and I still forget and use the button as well. 
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