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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 03:56 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:
Or maybe a lot of people are mystified at why they cant get the results they expected and are searching for a solution. 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 04:24 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:Robert wrote:Maybe Nikon is on to something after all? Now that's a possibility which hadn't occurred to me Eric.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 05:11 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote: Eric wrote: I am just a cynical old B.  I suspect its just flavour of the month. If you look at all D800 references they score higher than surrounding items. When the D400 arrives there will be a similar surge of interest.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 07:18 |
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Robert
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What about the D600 ??? :popcorn:
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2012 08:05 |
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Dave Groen
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Back to D800 movies... I have made some with the same results already noted - difficult to hold steady, difficult to see the LCD in sunlight, losing focus, etc. I do like the ability to make time-lapse videos, though, and have had some interesting results. I don't think it's such a big deal to include any of these little-used features into what is primarily a still-photo DSLR. They don't add any hardware cost. They are implemented through additional software that tells the camera to do different things with the hardware that's already there. "Mirror up. Shutter open. Read sensor. Send data to LCD. Grab a frame, crop it to 1080, send it to memory. Repeat 30 times per second..." Yes, they had to pay programmers to write the software, but they probably outsourced that to India so it was cheap.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 15:37 |
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Brad Neal
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I own a video production company, and tend to lean old-school as well, when it comes to my video gear. I still use the large (and very, very expensive) cameras. We did just purchase a Panasonic HPX-250 hand-held (remarkable images, by the way), and have only toyed with the video capabilities now available on the DSLR's. My experience was pretty much inline with most of the other comments mentioned in this thread... clunky feeling, forget auto-focus, hard to see the image on the tiny LCD, etc... But having said that, in the right hands, and properly equipped, DSLR's are capable of producing stunning footage, and have been used in some of Hollywood's latest and greatest current releases - namely; The Avengers, Captain America, Iron man 2, and many others. You do have to tool them up, but once you get the hang of it, they deliver cinema-quality footage at a fraction of the cost. Canon has pretty much taken the lead in this category with their 5D MK II, so I'm sure that's why Nikon has been so aggressive with pushing the video quality of their newer releases. But I can assure that DSLR's are all the rage with indi shooters, and as mentioned above, even the big boys in Hollywood. So as for still photographers being lured to a particular DSLR because of the video capabilities, well, it probably ain't gonna happen. But Cinematographers are all over them. Also, both Panasonic and Sony have developed DSLR-like video cameras that are more ergonomically suited for video, but they are really just DSLR's in a different chassis. It's all about being able to use 35mm prime lenses and the larger sensors that is driving the DSLR movie market. -Brad
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 04:21 |
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Graham Whistler
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Brad thank you for that, you are quite right. What I am saying as a DVD/Blue Ray railway produstion filming on railways a DSLR is not the best tool compared with any pro video camcorder. I too have in the past used Betacam SP and Digital Betacam. For my type of filming now the portable and reasonable priced Sony NX5 does a very good job. The D800 produces first class Movie footage and on a time line with AVCHD footage from the Sony NX5 it is sharper and colour is great, but when you output to BluRay or DVD there is little or no gain in the final result. No doubt on the Cinema you are dealing with a very large final image size, so I can see that high quality Nikon or Canon prime lenses and large sensors could be a major advantage. More so now with more and more feature films being shot digital and the likes of Kodak in serious trouble. I understand more that 50% of UK cinemas are now using digital projectors so film will soon be a thing of the past.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 10:44 |
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Brad Neal
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I completely agree, Graham. It doesn't fit my workflow either. They are capable of shooting some stunning footage, but they are not a good option for the run and gun stuff that we are called to do.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 04:36 |
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Graham Whistler
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No doubt some of you will have seen the latest copy of "Nikon Pro" the official NPS UK Nikon magazine. The D4 and D800 are now regarded by video broadcasters to be the first DSLR ever to be up to standard for very high end film and TV production. IE they have passed the very elaborate European Broadcast Union (EBU) test often called the BBC Test. These tests showed that both D4 and D800 exhibited the lowest amount of rolling shutter they have ever seen on a COMOS equipped camera. Other tests showed the two cameras to be very close to top grade broadcast cameras. Also praised for remarkable low light performance and the D800 was thought to be exceptional value given it's very high performance. As stated my modest tests proved the D800 to produce very high quality moving images but I still stand by all my remarks in this topic at how difficult it it to use a DSLR for location filming compared with a pro video camera, but no complaints on final image quality in an edited video film.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 17:54 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:No doubt some of you will have seen the latest copy of "Nikon Pro" the official NPS UK Nikon magazine. The D4 and D800 are now regarded by video broadcasters to be the first DSLR ever to be up to standard for very high end film and TV production. IE they have passed the very elaborate European Broadcast Union (EBU) test often called the BBC Test. I suspect the desire to have a multifunctional camera body outweighs the operational awkwardness for some people.
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