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| Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2012 05:35 |
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jk
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Robert wrote: So reading this inside out so to speak, if I don't want sound, I don't want to zoom or alter the focus during recording and I am recording a fairly static subject which doesn't need follow focus, panning or tilting, with the camera mounted on a tripod, then I should be fine. So a D800 for you as well then Robert ?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2012 06:28 |
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Robert
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 Don't think so JK maybe a D600 if they ever appear?As far as movies are concerned I think my D3100 will produce all the video quality I need. My biggest concern is how fine detail like grass or fine leaves moving will behave in video, it could turn into a mess of pixels as the image dithers between pixels. This was the issue I found with my Sony video camera at standard definition.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2012 07:18 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote: JK did ask me to start a movie topic so any more comments would be interesting. Have any of more you used Nikon DSLRs for shooting movie, lets hear what you think? Used several iterrations of the movie function since it came out. In the early days, focus was woeful....so I stopped even trying it out on the D300. The D7000 (our current walkaround version) produces good images but I still feel I am fighting focusing....along with its ergonomics. The weight, shape and balance requirements of a DSLR do not lend themselves to holding away from the eye....especially for 5-10 sec sequences over extended periods. It can only be used on a tripod or maybe some expensive steady cam contraption. That, at the outset, is a limitation. My other critique is the use of the Live view LCD as the viewing screen. I was filming a beach scene last week. White pebbles in sunlight behind me ....I couldnt even see the green focus square! Yes I know I can add on some 'aids'....but there's more... The view screen being in line with the lens means low angle horizontal shots get you down on your knees. (not nice on a wet shingle beach) Maybe its because I have work related neck damage but holding a camera at eye level and viewing distance, or even bending down and tilting my head back when mounted on a tripod is uncomfortable for prolonged periods. The only way I can look through the LCD is by getting down below it and looking slightly upwards. In fairness this isnt just for filming, DSLRs are also a pain in the neck when shooting low and horizontal ....even in the studio! Far better is an adjustable viewfinder. I am afraid no matter how good the image quality, the experience of filming isnt comfortable for me. I was once asked by an audience member (I was guest panellist on a wildlife programme that Anglia TV did some years ago) "What is the most important piece of equipment for a wildlife cameraman?" I replied "a cushion". After the laughter died down I made the point that if you arent as 'comfortable as possible' when filming (and waiting to film), no matter how good your equipment is, it shows in your technique. Well that is my belief...and its gotten more relevant the older I get. So the DSLR film feature will always be relegated to an afterthought for me. 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17th, 2012 17:38 |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric I agree 100% and my Sony NX5 as show above does a super job on movie and is easy to use and pulls in the quality without fuss. Just like the D800 does for my still photography there is a place for both.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 10:01 |
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Squarerigger
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I have not seen anyone so far who claims to want the current video capability on their Dxxx/Dxxxx camera. I am sure their are some folks who use it from time to time but I think most serious still photographers find little use for the capability as it now stands. So, why would Nikon decide to include a little used feature and one that most feel needs significant improvement to make it a useable product? What's in it for Nikon? Would folks switch to Canon or other brands if Nikon eliminated video from say the D7000 and up?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 10:56 |
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Eric
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Squarerigger wrote:I have not seen anyone so far who claims to want the current video capability on their Dxxx/Dxxxx camera. I am sure their are some folks who use it from time to time but I think most serious still photographers find little use for the capability as it now stands. I think it's summed up by the old comedy phrase... "never mind the quality, feel the width" It's all about 'fit for purpose' and I am afraid 'it will do' is the more common order of the day. The general populous are getting dumber and less discerning. Just look at tv programmes for evidence. It's all sensationalism and little sensitivity. So Nikon are going with the flow. But there is also the commercial media world to consider. The single skilled reporter is a thing of the past. Now they need to do stills, films and the copy....to save money. Beyond that, you might argue that it's in the industry's further interest to 'better equip the general public'. They already get free footage and snaps from phones. So getting even wobbly HD results sent in for free is an improvement. Just my two cents.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 11:21 |
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Graham Whistler
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It was interesting that when I saw the D800 at the Broadcast show in London early this year the Nikon stand with the just out D800 hardly had any of the Broadcast and Pro TV and Film people going to their stand. Very good news for me as I spent nearly an hour playing with the new camera and getting all the info I needed. A few weeks later at Focus in Birmingham nobody could get near the Nikon stand so may photographers wanting to see the D800 and D5! So that is how I got my order in so quickly and got the new camera in time for my trip to USA.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 11:37 |
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Squarerigger
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You are probably right Eric. Not having been in the business world I am often taken aback by what corporate America does but I was looking for better out of the Japanese. In America, I think most of the corporate budget is used for advertising with a small fraction on the sub par product manufactured. As a side note, not too long ago the manufacturer of my favorite cracker changed the box from a regular cereal type box to one I can not describe. It would not stack on the grocer shelves, nor in my pantry and it was just baffling to me what genius thought this up. For the first time in my life I sat down and wrote a letter to a company letting them know what I thought. A few weeks later I received some coupons and a letter in the mail. They were sorry I was not pleased but no one else had a problem so shut up and just be happy we will sell you the crackers. Well, low and behold, two weeks ago I was shopping and went to reach for my crackers and they were back in the original box. Not sure this story has any significance but there must have been more folks than myself who hated the box and they changed it back. Maybe we are not letting our displeasure with a product get to the manufacturer before we just switch and they don't know why? Maybe I am just showing my age and I am sick and tired of "multitasking" or doesn't do anything well just a bunch of things mediocre. Wore myself out and need my afternoon nap now. then maybe a beverage and some of my reborn crackers and cheese. 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 12:49 |
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Eric
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Squarerigger wrote:You are probably right Eric. Not having been in the business world I am often taken aback by what corporate America does but I was looking for better out of the Japanese. Very good tale. These sort of packaging gaffs are quite common. I worked for some years for a major food manufacturer who also have a Petfoods division. We had a really good packaging designer, and John would mockup every new concept and do all sorts of stack and transit trials. It was quite interesting to watch him in action. He used to have a phrase when other people didn't do things correctly "it's an absolute indictment!" he would exclaim. Having a slight lisp and higher pitch voice always seemed to add more venom and impact! But I digress... Our Petfoods division came up with a new dog food called flick. It went right through testing and packaging design of sorts...into production with supposedly the required attention to detail. It was not until the marketing guys got a call to come to the warehouse anyone knew there was an issue with the packaging design. They had used capital letters on the labels...and there were pallet after pallet, floor to ceiling, proudly displaying FLICK (squint and condense the letters!!!) Needless to say the packaing was scrapped. "It's an absolute indictment!" exclaimed John. 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2012 18:13 |
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Robert
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Well, we may have decided that the DSLR is not a prime tool for video but for some strange reason it seems to have attracted unprecedented interest. Even more the the "Mac or ?" thread... The number of hits is staggering for such a small forum with only 94 members:  Not sure if it might raise our hosting costs JK? The bandwidth must be being stretched. Even if we find DSLR's unsuitable for video, there are going on for 9,000 visitors to this thread who have at least searched this subject and shown an interest. Maybe Nikon is on to something after all? Unless of course the hits were looking for Utube? 
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