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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2012 16:52
 
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Ed Matusik wrote:
I was of the same opinion as Gary regarding the anticipated announcement of a new DX camera; however, with the extended focusing upgrades for the D4 and D800 series, I started leaning toward a 2X extender with my 200-400 and then a crop. The high image quality of the new cameras influenced me more so than the DX-factor. - EdM

Yes I agree. With Nikon raising the quality stakes all the time and with new models coming out that do the same but for less money then really waiting for a DX camera makes little sense unless you are a long telephoto user.

Compare the price and specs of the D3 and D800 the D3 is still a great camera but the D800 brings a lot of extras for a lesser price. The only read difference is the build quality ofthe D3 is much more solid.



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Eric wrote:
Ray Ninness wrote: ArcticRick wrote: Im so annoyed by it all , I just want something that shoots at higher ISO than my D200 .The D3 really kicked the High ISO Low Noise can down the road, and obsoleted just about every camera in the field. Especially every Nikon body that came before it..

The day I bought my first D700 98% of a D3, perhaps, but what an amazing beast, was the day that my D2x went into the vault to stay !!! And I was in love with that box up until then..

For the work I am doing now, and it isn't much, the D700's more then cover the task, and are still amazing low light Kings...

The D2x still could produce wonderful images, but the very limiting ISO range, only realized once I had the D700, was the death of that box!!!

Rick reduce your operating pain, get a newer body with the extended High ISo range and watch you images improve on the spot!!!

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I can remember the 'relief' ...yes relief... I got when I took the first shots with the D3.
For the first time I was able to stop chimping to check the image recorded as I saw it.

Thats not to say previous cameras didnt create great pictures, but somehow the D3 relaxed the process.  If you needed 2000 ISO there wasnt the nagging doubt it would be noisy. You didnt have to consider lens /camera settings to diminish noise or preplan noise reducing processing....which although successful added more work.

The larger pixels gave greater clarity in the images. The whole process of picture making became more relaxed. The D3 just reduced the anxst.

Sure the D3S moved the goalposts higher...and the D4 even more.

But I said then and I repeat now... "The D3 is as good as it NEEDS to get for 95% of shooters". 

I havent used a D700. But I am willing to bet the IQ and handling will be close to the D3 but at a lower price.

So I fully support Ray's recommendation to just get a D700 and reduce the pain.

The only thing a new DX body is guaranteed to bring is 1.5x magnification. Just get yourself a Kenko TC converter and you have it already.



I agree the D3 and D3s are fine cameras to use and producing great results is so much easier than with D800 or a DX camera. I dont know why but I feel more confident wth the D3 than the D800.



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OK I'm not a betting person but...... I'd lay money that there will be a DX camera release in the next month.
I would think that it will be a D7000 or D300S replacement.



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Nikonrumors seems to think the same.

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hmmm i read the answers on here with interest ,two points the d7000 handles noise very well and will shoot at (my findings and usage) up to iso 3200 without noise becoming a major issue ,my d300s will only work well at up to iso 1600 ,i already use a 1.7 or a 1.4 t.c with either camera so a newer dx body that will shoot and focus as fast as a d300 and handle noise as well as a d7000 would be more than welcome .
but i just wish that nikon in its infinite wisdom would bring out a lens to equal the canon 400mm 5.6 ,its still my favourite all time lens ,lightweight ,fast and remarkably cheap .it seems theres no ideal win win situation for nikon as we all want different things for different reasons ,so best thing to do is sit back and wait .

 




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I wish Nikon won't "update" the AF mode switch as it did with D4,D800(s) and D600. Sometimes a very high FPS isn't as important as how quickly the photographer can handle the camera.

 




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blackfox wrote: hmmm i read the answers on here with interest ,two points the d7000 handles noise very well and will shoot at (my findings and usage) up to iso 3200 without noise becoming a major issue ,my d300s will only work well at up to iso 1600 ,i already use a 1.7 or a 1.4 t.c with either camera so a newer dx body that will shoot and focus as fast as a d300 and handle noise as well as a d7000 would be more than welcome .
but i just wish that nikon in its infinite wisdom would bring out a lens to equal the canon 400mm 5.6 ,its still my favourite all time lens ,lightweight ,fast and remarkably cheap .it seems theres no ideal win win situation for nikon as we all want different things for different reasons ,so best thing to do is sit back and wait .


Re:  400mm 5.6   They probably think that the Nikon 70-200 AFS VR or 80-200 AFD with a x2 converter gives you the same so wont go there.
I think a 400mm f4.0 prime is a better option but f5.6 would be lighter and cheaper as you say.    Is anything Nikon cheap?  :lol:





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yes jonathan i use the 300mm f4 with t/c's as you know and generally quality is good ,probably up there with the canon 400 5.6 ,but it just irks me that nikon think that everyone can afford a 5 grand 500mm lens ,there is a huge market out there for a moderately priced dx long zoom of around f4 to f5.6 ,no need for image stabiliser if they make it light and sturdy enough ,its only a pipe dream but if any nikon r&d guys do read these forums ,your missing a huge slice of a potential market ,one that long term would sell more camera bodies

 




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jk wrote:
blackfox wrote: hmmm i read the answers on here with interest ,two points the d7000 handles noise very well and will shoot at (my findings and usage) up to iso 3200 without noise becoming a major issue ,my d300s will only work well at up to iso 1600 ,i already use a 1.7 or a 1.4 t.c with either camera so a newer dx body that will shoot and focus as fast as a d300 and handle noise as well as a d7000 would be more than welcome .
but i just wish that nikon in its infinite wisdom would bring out a lens to equal the canon 400mm 5.6 ,its still my favourite all time lens ,lightweight ,fast and remarkably cheap .it seems theres no ideal win win situation for nikon as we all want different things for different reasons ,so best thing to do is sit back and wait .


Re:  400mm 5.6   They probably think that the Nikon 70-200 AFS VR or 80-200 AFD with a x2 converter gives you the same so wont go there.
I think a 400mm f4.0 prime is a better option but f5.6 would be lighter and cheaper as you say.    Is anything Nikon cheap?  :lol:





Then they would be wrong. Their new AFS 2x TC on the 80-200AFS falls short of the quality of a prime 400mm by a long chalk. In fact short of sigma prime let alone a Nikon!

I've sold my new 2x TC!

I still maintain that whilst a 1.4x TC works (can't comment on 1.7x) a 2x converter is a bridge too far. Amplification of inherent lens faults come more to the fore.



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i base mine on using the d7000 ,300mm f4 ,1.7tc giving me a useable 500mm eric ,it works exceedingly well .however coupling it with the d300s i am noticing shortfalls in quality ,the 1.4 being the better option quality wise .so is this sensor based/or possibly iso or just the poor light at the moment .time will tell as i,m still learning the 300.
for instance i have always found that auto iso handles anything thrown at it on the 7000 but not that good on the 300 a fixed iso working better ,possibly i,m trying to push the camera/sensor further than it can reach .going to be a interesting winter though

 

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