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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 15:50 |
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Graham Whistler
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JK not a lot in Photoshop: levels to give a tad more contrast and USM Sharpening a modest amount to bring up fine detail.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 16:11 |
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Eric
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chrisbet wrote:So I repeated the image with the D610 + 28-70 2.8 Sounds like the Samsung is breaking new ground.  It’s clearly doing a better job of controlling highlights & shadows (ie expanding dynamic range) within the phone, so it is doing some auto processing in the background. Whereas that needs to be done manually afterwards with a DSLR.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 16:25 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:I agree with Eric but if you are out for a walk my iPhone SE does a half-reasonable job, if it is all you have with you, of a landscape both these images scored well in my local camera club comps. I like the first photo best as there’s a bit more interest. And THAT is the point with iPhone images….well ….actually all images! If you fill the frame with interesting detail, the eye is more forgiving. I don’t hear the hiss on my speakers if the music is good and loud…..but its still there, if I stop listening to the music and listen to the noise.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23rd, 2024 08:55 |
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Iain
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I wonder how some of these phone pics would be if something like Topaz Gigapixel was used to upscale it.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23rd, 2024 13:08 |
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chrisbet
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As I only run Linux, I can't find out!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27th, 2024 08:43 |
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jk
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Iain wrote:I wonder how some of these phone pics would be if something like Topaz Gigapixel was used to upscale it. I think the mushiness is down to the small pixel area so a bit of Gigapixel might help. Graham's images passed through Photoshop certainly look improved, compared to my iphone images.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27th, 2024 08:59 |
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jk
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Looking at Chris' picture there is much increased dynamic range which is very good. The outside in full sunshine through to the dog all have detail. I wonder if there isnt a bit of HDR going on in camera. Apple seem to be a bit behind Samsung and Google with implementing AI in camera. The Google Pixel phone adverts on TV show removal of items on photo which is very attractive to casual users.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27th, 2024 09:35 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:Looking at Chris' picture there is much increased dynamic range which is very good. I suspect there is some highlight/shadow adjustment in camera, to dodge and burn in. And why not? It’s what we would do manually in Photoshop where highlights are being lost and shadows blocked out. As photographers we have long shied away from using Program mode or Subject modes, and resisted JPEGs in favour of raw, preferring to take total control ourselves In some ways these were the precursors for what we are now seeing in phones, but in addition to basic camera setting selection, programmers have now added in camera some of the post editing adjustment we would make. The question has always been ….how much does the camera programmer know about OUR final required appearance for the photo? Can they best guess, by using AI learning of the perfect lighting, sharpness and detail WHAT the photographer intended? I am sure as our grip on manual control is loosened, we more readily accept the image provided by the phone. The next question is…when they add this level of sophistication to dslr/mirrorless cameras, will we still ‘bother’ to reach for Photoshop or will we accept the result out of the camera?….just like we HAD to do before digital cameras and without a darkroom to help.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27th, 2024 15:20 |
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chrisbet
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Yes - the more I learn about the Samsung the more I am impressed with it - HDR can be turned off and many manual image edits done in camera. Their "intelligent optimisation" can be set to max, medium and minimum and it also has a "scene optimiser" that controls colour and contrast - I have not tried that one yet! It also has face focus tracking and can take HEIF and RAW pics. I have also just acquired a used Sony FS5 video cam - now that one is sophisticated and has a 14 stops of exposure latitude and a variable ND filter to help control depth of field - more play time!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2024 08:44 |
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Eric
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chrisbet wrote:Yes - the more I learn about the Samsung the more I am impressed with it - HDR can be turned off and many manual image edits done in camera. Yes it can, but one of the key uses of the ND filter on video cameras is to reduce bright light reaching the sensor as they don’t have the same latitude to stop down the aperture that still cameras have. They can easily over expose the footage in sunny weather…..so I have read. Not sure in low light uk we would have that problem though. lol Graham should be able to explain the whys. I can see a new forum name “Originally Nikon ….now incorporating Sony, Canon, Olympus….and Samsung phones”
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