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| Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2024 12:55 |
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chrisbet
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Just got a new Samsung phone - camera has 50mp and AI built in - just playing with it at the moment but this looks like another nail in the SLR coffin - 4k video too!  Click here to comment on this image. Normal -  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2024 16:52 |
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Iain
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That looks nice on the screen but what is it like if you print it out. My son has asked me to print out a few pics he took on his phone at A4 but they are rubbish when printed out.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2024 18:06 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:That looks nice on the screen but what is it like if you print it out. My son has asked me to print out a few pics he took on his phone at A4 but they are rubbish when printed out. Ah but did HE think they were rubbish? I haven’t printed a photo for more than 2 years and it begs two questions….. how many people will ever print the phone photos and how many will recognise inferior quality? Saying I haven’t printed a photo isn’t strictly true because we have produced photo books including Jans iPhone 14 images. There’s no doubt you can see the difference to the Sony photos when they are displayed at A4 size and adjacent, but they hold their own with other IPhone images at A5 size, especially when the subjects fill the frame with no cropping AND the subjects themselves are strong.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2024 20:12 |
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Iain
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Eric wrote:Ah but did HE think they were rubbish? I agree with that, I printed the photos my son wanted as 6x4 and they were fine at that size.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 08:17 |
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chrisbet
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I printed out A4 on photo paper -Canon TR4500 inkjet - looks pretty good to me! Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 09:15 |
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Eric
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chrisbet wrote:I printed out A4 on photo paper -Canon TR4500 inkjet - looks pretty good to me! I think you would need to take the same photo on your DSLR and print that to same size. I would be very surprised if you couldn’t tell the difference…..but am prepared to be amazed. Technology is going on in such leaps and bounds but they are still fighting physics with high pixel densities on small sensors. They may however have reached a point where the difference is no longer discernible at A4. When my wife got her iPhone 14 I took over using her iPhone 11 (a big step up from my IPhone 6!) I said that I would try to use it as my ‘go to camera’. I did for a while but I rarely use it for photos now…even when I haven’t got the Sony to hand. There’s something not right and awkward in the composing and taking photos with a phone….for me. I am reminded of the Ansel Adam’s observation about SLR camera compared to plate cameras. He proposed that a significant contribution to the inferior quality of SLR images wasn’t just the smaller negative size, but the ‘speed and ease of use’ of an SLR. I somehow feel that’s true of the phone. We tend to grab shots rather than taking time to compose and frame ….well that’s what I feel I do!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 09:59 |
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jk
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I tend to agree with Iain and Eric. The pictures look fine on a small screen or up to 6x4" maybe 8x6" but anything larger and the images go mushy and the colours desaturate. Apple and Samsung have successfully led a your phone can take wonderful pictures but that is for the 90% who are not at all discerning. Dont get me wrong if you think that I think there is no place for phone pictures. I think that unless you set up a DSLR or mirrorless camera very carefully then the phone wins when you want huge depth of field with macro or small subject or object in the foreground and a beautiful landscape, etc. Example image from my iPhone 13 Pro (12MP).  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 10:27 |
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Graham Whistler
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I agree with Eric but if you are out for a walk my iPhone SE does a half-reasonable job, if it is all you have with you, of a landscape both these images scored well in my local camera club comps. Click here to comment on this image.  Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 11:05 |
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jk
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What post processing have you done on those images Graham, if any. I think that one of the things that is missing from the latest DSLRs, MILCs is the ability to have some customisable AI or other processing in camera.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2024 14:14 |
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chrisbet
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So I repeated the image with the D610 + 28-70 2.8 I think the phone did a better job of balancing the outside exposure but the d610 is a nicer image on the inside elements - both images are without any post - straight from camera Both prints at A4 are very similar, but the detail outside and on the windowsill is lost on the d610 version and there are some vertical stripes which don't appear on the printed phone image?  Click here to comment on this image. Printed A4  Click here to comment on this image.
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