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Posted: Wed Apr 13th, 2022 14:10
 
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It is personal choice. I go for the oof background because they sell as mags etc can put wording over it.

 




Posted: Fri Apr 22nd, 2022 17:18
 
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It is amazing me how you can buy a Sony mirrorless camera put a lens on it and get sharp pictures without any AF adjustment. Just bought a 24-70 Sony lens put it on the A9, sharp pictures.

 




Posted: Fri Apr 22nd, 2022 19:59
 
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Iain wrote:
It is amazing me how you can buy a Sony mirrorless camera put a lens on it and get sharp pictures without any AF adjustment. Just bought a 24-70 Sony lens put it on the A9, sharp pictures.
In fairness I never had AF issues with Nikon lenses, apart from the early days of digital when they seemed to have a lot of QC issues.
Conversely, every Sigma lens Ive tried needed AF adjusting.

I suspect the Leica historical connection with Sony has set the quality benchmark.



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I was never as lucky as you Eric, most of the Nikon lenses I had needed AF adjusted they were either front or back focusing.
Maybe it was because I was shooting small birds with long lenses and narrow dof.

 




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Iain wrote:
I was never as lucky as you Eric, most of the Nikon lenses I had needed AF adjusted they were either front or back focusing.
Maybe it was because I was shooting small birds with long lenses and narrow dof.

Actually Iain, that’s a good point which makes me correct my assertion.
The only long Nikon lens I owned was the 500pf when I started bird photography, and that was fine.
The 100-400 lens I tried prior to that was poor and I sent it back. Before that I wasn’t photographing anything longer than 200mm….so probably wasn’t as critical.



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I think some of the Nikon focus problems was the transition from MF to AF.
With MF you could always use the human error excuse, with AF the expectation is that the image should be sharp.  With improving AF methods this gets better and better but it is still possible to kid the AF on occasions e.g. shooting through double/triple glazing.
I guess that it is expectation setting.
I would contend that if you could do a side by side comparison of the latest and greatest from Canon, Nikon, Sony that you would find that there was nothing in it except a huge hole in your wallet.

I can remember the handwringing and frustration many went through in the period from D1 (September 1997) through to introduction of D3 (October 2007), regarding FX in Canon compared with DX only in Nikons until the D3.  I recently revisited some of my Nikon D2X images.  Super sharp but only 12MP and with much worse noise than current cameras.   Same with the D600 (24MP), D800 (30MP).
I have to say that whilst I can appreciate bird photos I dont shoot that many bird images as I prefer people and landscapes.

I see the same now with AF.  It is really an expectation management issue with the media setting false expectations that every camera will be equally capable at the same time rather than development lifecycles eventually synchronising as certain technology becomes ubiquitous.

I think that Sony certain led the field in AF as Fuji did with mirrorless.   Everyone 10 years ago said mirrorless was not as good as DSLR.  Are there any leading edge DSLRs these days?  No.  Mirrorless was the future in 2012 and that is the what we have now. 10 years of technology improvement has changed our view.

Next big technology is the 'global shutter' that will kill off the mechanical shutter.
It is not quite there now but before 2030 I expect it to be in every camera.



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jk wrote:
I think some of the Nikon focus problems was the transition from MF to AF.
With MF you could always use the human error excuse, with AF the expectation is that the image should be sharp.  With improving AF methods this gets better and better but it is still possible to kid the AF on occasions e.g. shooting through double/triple glazing.
I guess that it is expectation setting.
I would contend that if you could do a side by side comparison of the latest and greatest from Canon, Nikon, Sony that you would find that there was nothing in it except a huge hole in your wallet.

I can remember the handwringing and frustration many went through in the period from D1 (September 1997) through to introduction of D3 (October 2007), regarding FX in Canon compared with DX only in Nikons until the D3.  I recently revisited some of my Nikon D2X images.  Super sharp but only 12MP and with much worse noise than current cameras.   Same with the D600 (24MP), D800 (30MP).
I have to say that whilst I can appreciate bird photos I dont shoot that many bird images as I prefer people and landscapes.

I see the same now with AF.  It is really an expectation management issue with the media setting false expectations that every camera will be equally capable at the same time rather than development lifecycles eventually synchronising as certain technology becomes ubiquitous.

I think that Sony certain led the field in AF as Fuji did with mirrorless.   Everyone 10 years ago said mirrorless was not as good as DSLR.  Are there any leading edge DSLRs these days?  No.  Mirrorless was the future in 2012 and that is the what we have now. 10 years of technology improvement has changed our view.

Next big technology is the 'global shutter' that will kill off the mechanical shutter.
It is not quite there now but before 2030 I expect it to be in every camera.

By 2030?
A lot can and will happen in 8 digital years. Some of us will be pleased just to read about it. :lol:



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Posted: Tue Apr 26th, 2022 17:00
 
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Eric wrote:
By 2030?
A lot can and will happen in 8 digital years. Some of us will be pleased just to read about it. :lol:

:lol: The way things are going with Russia we might be lucky to see 2023 never mind 2030.

 




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Maybe now we will rue the demise of TSR2!



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Posted: Mon Jul 11th, 2022 19:29
 
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I have added to my Sony bag with a A7R mkiii to give me a high resolution body. I afraid I'm one of quite a few that have left the Nikon camp because of Nikon's mirrorless poor AF for wildlife.

 

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