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Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2021 15:32
 
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I really want to like the Z9 but I can't because it doesn't deliver the, heavily plugged, advantages of mirrorless. Sure it benefits from the removal of the mirror in vibration terms but, crucially for me, it isn't any lighter than the D4 bodies I already have. An extra 160g per body is significant and, if I use my current lenses, another 100+g for FTZ II adaptors means I would be carrying an extra 500g. The other advantages just don't do anything for me, though I accept that for others they may be make or break.

What annoys me most however is the attitude of some in the photographic press who are so convinced of the advantages that they fail to see why anyone wouldn't want them. A rational approach would compare like for like, something that hasn't been possible until now because professional mirrorless bodies from Canon and Nikon have only recently become available.

Eric's list of user "wants" is an interesting basis for such a comparison, my comments in Blue.

Lighter bodies: Yes something I would like but the available body doesn't deliver.
Quieter shutters: Not really a problem but if it is there then I won't complain.
Wider/faster tracking focus: I haven't encountered a need for better tracking with the lenses I have. May be I should spend a small proportion of price of a Z9 on a longer lens.
Better video performance (viewfinder and focus): I don't do video.
Faster burst rates: I never use continuous shutter release so it doesn't apply.
Real-time image viewing: I am not sure how much of an advantage that is, I have it on my 1J5 but I have managed without for nearly 50 years


So I have to agree with him that for me, and I suspect many another amateur, mirrorless is a distraction.

Got to say that I agree with all of this as I dont feel the Z9 is for me but I would like a similar specs on a lighter camera with a smaller battery.
I dont do video so video is wasted on me, I seldom do anything more than the occasional CH burst and find it useful but not a must have.

The killer items are smaller so like the Z7, with built in GPS, better Dynamic Range on the sensor and anything between 36-50MP is OK.  More is not good!
Battery if it uses the current Z7 battery then so much the better.



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As a rank amateur, I have no need for anything other than my D610 - I have invested in good lenses to go with it, but for the VAST majority of the images and videos I capture, the smartphone is a much more useful tool - image quality on the latest phones is more than good enough with resolutions up to 108 megapixels.

Video is also much easier as you can see the framing easily on the screen as long as you are not in very bright sunlight.

So the Z series, or Sony, Canon or Fuji alternatives have no interest to me and, I suspect, the vast majority of people who take images for pleasure.

My wife has bought a gimbal head for her iPhone. ( she loves doing videos) There's no doubt it gives rock steady walking video plus the app has some clever tricks. But I can't see here running up and down the touch line filming soccer at her age so it's only going to be valuable if she falls over while filming.it will keep subject lock albeit at a lower angle.

I have to laugh (without her seeing me of course) because she now carries more paraphernalia weight to get the iPhone working optimally than she did with her bridge camera. 🤭🤐



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I have to laugh (without her seeing me of course) because she now carries more paraphernalia weight to get the iPhone working optimally than she did with her bridge camera. 🤭🤐
Lol, but I bet it is still a lot lighter than your kit!

I use the iPad mini to video - it has video stabilisation, the large screen makes composition easy and removes the desire to squint through one eye!



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Get yourself a decent camera with a Passepartout.
Easy solution, he carries, you shoot.
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jk wrote:
Battery if it uses the current Z7 battery then so much the better.

The exact opposite applies for me, I have EN-EL18s so a camera that uses those would be ideal.

 




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Lol, but I bet it is still a lot lighter than your kit!

I use the iPad mini to video - it has video stabilisation, the large screen makes composition easy and removes the desire to squint through one eye!

It's also created a minor revamp on carrying her phone.
Till now, she always carried her phone in her bra. (Wallet in the other side keeping her hands free)

But having a 10” metal handle poking out is apparently unacceptable. So she's had a rethink and come up with a better solution..I carry it !!!

She's keeping the wallet though.



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Haha that will stop you going feral with the finances.  Never know what desperate things you might do after the LandRover experience.

These new tech are distraction from the mundane.  Still trying to get a tradesman to sort out a small but annoying leak at my other house.



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Yes I do.
I hope that 2022 and Covid-reduction everywhere will allow me return for a holiday.



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