This site requires new users to accept that a small amount of member data is captured and held in an attempt to reduce spammers and to manage users. This site also uses cookies to ensure ease of use. In order to comply with new DPR regulations you are required to agree/disagree with this process. If you do not agree then please email the Admins using info@nikondslr.uk after requesting a new account. Thank you.

 Moderated by: chrisbet, Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3  4  Next Page Last Page  
First pictures of Nikon Z9   -   Page   3
Spotting the Z9  Rate Topic 
AuthorPost



Posted: Fri Oct 8th, 2021 06:04 $report_button
   
21st Post
Robert



Joined: Sun Apr 1st, 2012
Location: South Lakeland, UK
Posts: 4066
Status: 
Offline
chrisbet wrote:
I can't understand the need for EYF
EYF???

I thought I knew most of the acronyms...



____________________
Robert.

   




Posted: Fri Oct 8th, 2021 11:21 $report_button
   
22nd Post
chrisbet



Joined: Thu Feb 7th, 2019
Location: Leigh On Sea, Essex , United Kingdom
Posts: 1526
Status: 
Offline
Robert wrote:
EYF???

I thought I knew most of the acronyms...

Finger trouble, for Y read V .... it's me age, you know.



____________________
If it is broken it was probably me ....
   




Posted: Fri Oct 8th, 2021 11:49 $report_button
   
23rd Post
Eric



Joined: Wed Apr 18th, 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4583
Status: 
Offline
chrisbet wrote:
Finger trouble, for Y read V .... it's me age, you know.
I thought you were being polite and not gesticulating your disapproval



____________________
Eric
   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 02:09 $report_button
   
24th Post
Robert



Joined: Sun Apr 1st, 2012
Location: South Lakeland, UK
Posts: 4066
Status: 
Offline
chrisbet wrote:
Finger trouble, for Y read V .... it's me age, you know.
I didn't click with the similarity of the characters...  If I suspect a typo I look at the adjacent characters on my keyboard.  I am totally unfamiliar with the Z series, I am following the thread partly in the hope of learning something, your 'Y' confused the heck out of me!

On a more serious note, I think we need to check what we type is accurate, many people will visit this thread expecting to learn something about the Z9 and some may go away confused?  It certain;y had me scratching my head! :hair:  :doh:



____________________
Robert.

   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 02:48 $report_button
   
25th Post
chrisbet



Joined: Thu Feb 7th, 2019
Location: Leigh On Sea, Essex , United Kingdom
Posts: 1526
Status: 
Offline
Lol - to confuse you even more I have corrected my original post .....



____________________
If it is broken it was probably me ....
   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 04:20 $report_button
   
26th Post
GeoffR

 

Joined: Wed Apr 11th, 2012
Location: Denham, United Kingdom
Posts: 301
Status: 
Offline
chrisbet wrote:
I can't understand the need for EVF - why take light, convert it to electricity and then convert it back to light?

The only advantage, if it is one, is the removal of the mirror and associated noise / vibration / wear. To be honest my 610 is fairly quiet in Q mode.

Just because we CAN do something isn't a reason we NEED to do it. But there is something built into some humans that means they always need the latest whizz bang and manufacturers play on that to make their profits - why otherwise would Nikon have so many cameras and so many lenses?

The NEED is for the manufacturer because the alignment of mirrors, focus sensor and focusing screen is a skilled job and thus costly. A mirrorless camera doesn't need any alignment and thus doesn't require the skilled technician to do it. Since the Z9 is no cheaper than the D6 one must assume an increased profit margin.

Removing the mirror obviously removes the vibration and noise (actually the same thing just different frequencies). I am not sure that wear is as much of an issue as many think, especially in amateur hands.

Many commentators in the photographic press are so absolutely convinced of the superiority of the mirrorless camera over the SLR that they have closed their eyes to the disadvantages, battery life for example. Most of them are younger than I am and thus more disposed to accept the disadvantages in exchange for convenience. They will tell you that being able to see the effects of exposure compensation before shooting is essential, it isn't, anyone who uses or has used film will be experienced in judging the effect without seeing a preview simply because a preview isn't possible. Of course, if you want what the EVF offers you can switch but personally I prefer the freedom to shoot all day without the need to carry spare batteries.

Mirrorless is just another tool in the box, you can still do the job without it but sometimes it might make the job easier.

   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 08:48 $report_button
   
27th Post
Robert



Joined: Sun Apr 1st, 2012
Location: South Lakeland, UK
Posts: 4066
Status: 
Offline
chrisbet wrote:
Lol - to confuse you even more I have corrected my original post .....
I am easily confused.  :hammer;-)



____________________
Robert.

   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 09:27 $report_button
   
28th Post
Eric



Joined: Wed Apr 18th, 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4583
Status: 
Offline
Robert wrote:
I didn't click with the similarity of the characters...  If I suspect a typo I look at the adjacent characters on my keyboard.  I am totally unfamiliar with the Z series, I am following the thread partly in the hope of learning something, your 'Y' confused the heck out of me!

On a more serious note, I think we need to check what we type is accurate, many people will visit this thread expecting to learn something about the Z9 and some may go away confused?  It certain;y had me scratching my head! :hair:  :doh:

We are talking about the Z9 ?
But when considering a £multi thousand camera it's only right to consider what you get for your money.
Hence my post about the compromises to be made when switching from DSLR to mirrorless. Some of which call into question the whole ethos of mirrorless.

Of course as Geoff points out many younger people aren't coming to the mirrorless party with as many preconceived comparisons.

I previously considered the exposure preview an advantage, but have lately switched it off as it can be a distraction in low light. Far better to rely on ones experience on exposure setting which served us well during the predigital days.


But I am sure many will buy the Z9



____________________
Eric
   




Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2021 12:04 $report_button
   
29th Post
jk



Joined: Sun Apr 1st, 2012
Location: Carthew, Cornwall, United Kingdom
Posts: 6993
Status: 
Offline
Well I like or even prefer the EVF for some/most shooting but there are instances where the DSLR still wins which is why I havent moved totally to Fuji or Sony.
I really like the specs for the Sony cameras but I really dislike their menus.
I havent tried the A1 or latest A7R series cameras but all the ones I looked at about 5-6years ago the menus were horrible.  Designed by a monkey on crack!

The lenses are very nice but they should be as they have only just finished updating and extending the range.

Regarding future cameras.
I see no reason to upgrade to a Z9 or even a Z7ii.  What will come in Z8?

I am waiting for the Fuji XH2 and will decide whether I move totally to Fuji or just stick with what I have with a mix of Nikon and Fuji.  I actually have all I need in the Fuji and I prefer the XT3 to any camera since the Nikon F3, the D3S is close behind the XT3, really only due to it bulk and weight.


I must go and see if I can get a hands on with an A1.  
Eric, any chance of you coming down this way?  I know Land Rovers need a run out to keep them in good order.  My Discovery did 120k miles before I sold it, and it never missed a beat.



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none
   




Posted: Sun Oct 10th, 2021 11:31 $report_button
   
30th Post
Eric



Joined: Wed Apr 18th, 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 4583
Status: 
Offline
jk wrote:
Well I like or even prefer the EVF for some/most shooting but there are instances where the DSLR still wins which is why I havent moved totally to Fuji or Sony.
I really like the specs for the Sony cameras but I really dislike their menus.
I havent tried the A1 or latest A7R series cameras but all the ones I looked at about 5-6years ago the menus were horrible.  Designed by a monkey on crack!

The lenses are very nice but they should be as they have only just finished updating and extending the range.

Regarding future cameras.
I see no reason to upgrade to a Z9 or even a Z7ii.  What will come in Z8?

I am waiting for the Fuji XH2 and will decide whether I move totally to Fuji or just stick with what I have with a mix of Nikon and Fuji.  I actually have all I need in the Fuji and I prefer the XT3 to any camera since the Nikon F3, the D3S is close behind the XT3, really only due to it bulk and weight.


I must go and see if I can get a hands on with an A1.  
Eric, any chance of you coming down this way?  I know Land Rovers need a run out to keep them in good order.  My Discovery did 120k miles before I sold it, and it never missed a beat.

The menu system on the A1 is entirely different to the previous Sony menus. For one thing it's vertical like most other cameras  
It's different to the Nikon but now more intuitive to follow ..apart from some of the Sony terminology and the sheer amount of options!!



____________________
Eric
   

Reply
1st new
This is topic ID = 1925     Current time is 00:34 Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3  4  Next Page Last Page    
Nikon DSLR Forums > Camera and Lens Forums > Cameras > First pictures of Nikon Z9 Top

Users viewing this topic

Post quick reply

Go to top
Go to end
Messages
Home
Recent topics
Unread posts
Last posts
Splash

Current theme is Modern editor



A small amount of member data is captured and held in an attempt to reduce spammers and to manage users. This site also uses cookies to ensure ease of use. In order to comply with new DPR regulations you are required to agree/disagree with this process. If you do not agree then please email the Admins using info@nikondslr.uk Thank you.


Hosted by Octarine Services

UltraBB 1.173 Copyright © 2008-2025 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.0693 seconds (70% database + 30% PHP). 88 queries executed.