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More rumours about a revised FTZ adapter that will allow AF-D lenses to autofocus on a Z camera as well as AF-S lenses.

From NikonRumors.com "I can now confirm that Nikon is indeed working on a new Nikon FTZ2 adapter – I received multiple tips from reliable sources. The new adapter will have a re-designed body (probably without the bump at the bott0m) and this should avoid problems when mounting Z cameras on a tripod or when using underwater housings. I am not sure if the new adapter will be announced together with the Z9 camera. Stay tuned for more details."


Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz76HBT5flx



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First real teaser from nikon about the Z9.
https://youtu.be/tCl4LWM4D9U

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jk wrote:
First real teaser from nikon about the Z9.
https://youtu.be/tCl4LWM4D9U

Nail your wallet down!

That looks like a big body for a Zcamera. More like a DSLR.



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I think it has the same battery as the D6.
It is not for me.  I dont want a camera larger than the Z7.



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Nearly as big  as a D3, Then what`s the point..was it to be " modern " with having an EVF , or having a new lensline....not sure about Nikon`s strategy..heard they`ve changed management so mebbe it`s about change for the sake of change itself.



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Why indeed? I regard the 'need' for mirrorless to be more an issue of manufacturer desire like energy smart meters and hybrid motors.
Mirrorless is on the whole a series of compromises. 

The evf on the Sony A1 is the best I've seenbut it's still not the same as a DSLR viewfinder. Good enough but compromise 1
In common with other mirrorless bodies (except this Z9) the bodies are small. Not sure why when hands haven't changed size. Compromise 2
The lenses used with most mirrorless systems are still heavy DSLR versions. This means in use, mirrorless + lens is not much different to DSLR + lens. Compromise 3 (Only Fuji X system has light weight bodies AND lenses.)
Battery life is less than half of a DSLR. Compromise 4
The responsiveness (wake up, focus acquisition) of many mirrorless bodies is slower than a DSLR. Compromise 5


The Sony A1 is however very fast to focus and retain lock under moving subject situations.
It's mechanical shutter is very silent.that's even without going to silent mode!
So there is some hope things might improve in the areas where I feel we are being required to compromise.

Mybiggest disappointment with mirrorless is the meagre improvement in noise at relatively low iso levels. Not everyone wants 250,000iso. And if we did, there would be realistic expectations of some serious noise. 

But in the more typical overcast UK light, ISOs upto 6,000 are often necessary to allow faster shutter speeds and narrow apertures as the subject dictates.

For me the only reason I would contemplate changing systems (again) would be if a manufacturer manages to give iso 400 noise levels upto iso 6000. It would save a lot of faffing about using noise reduction software.



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Eric wrote:
Why indeed? I regard the 'need' for mirrorless to be more an issue of manufacturer desire like energy smart meters and hybrid motors.
Mirrorless is on the whole a series of compromises. 

The evf on the Sony A1 is the best I've seenbut it's still not the same as a DSLR viewfinder. Good enough but compromise 1
In common with other mirrorless bodies (except this Z9) the bodies are small. Not sure why when hands haven't changed size. Compromise 2
The lenses used with most mirrorless systems are still heavy DSLR versions. This means in use, mirrorless + lens is not much different to DSLR + lens. Compromise 3 (Only Fuji X system has light weight bodies AND lenses.)
Battery life is less than half of a DSLR. Compromise 4
The responsiveness (wake up, focus acquisition) of many mirrorless bodies is slower than a DSLR. Compromise 5


The Sony A1 is however very fast to focus and retain lock under moving subject situations.
It's mechanical shutter is very silent.that's even without going to silent mode!
So there is some hope things might improve in the areas where I feel we are being required to compromise.

Mybiggest disappointment with mirrorless is the meagre improvement in noise at relatively low iso levels. Not everyone wants 250,000iso. And if we did, there would be realistic expectations of some serious noise. 

But in the more typical overcast UK light, ISOs upto 6,000 are often necessary to allow faster shutter speeds and narrow apertures as the subject dictates.

For me the only reason I would contemplate changing systems (again) would be if a manufacturer manages to give iso 400 noise levels upto iso 6000. It would save a lot of faffing about using noise reduction software.

I agree with all of your points except the first one about the OVF/EVF part.
With DSLR there is mirror blackout which is analogous to the blackout in mirrorless when it reads out the sensor.
The battery issue is a common problem with all electronic cameras.  Film cameras only needed power initially for the meter, then meter and film advance, then finally for meter, film advance and autofocus plus any TFT for menus.



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I can't understand the need for EVF - why take light, convert it to electricity and then convert it back to light?

The only advantage, if it is one, is the removal of the mirror and associated noise / vibration / wear. To be honest my 610 is fairly quiet in Q mode.

Just because we CAN do something isn't a reason we NEED to do it. But there is something built into some humans that means they always need the latest whizz bang and manufacturers play on that to make their profits - why otherwise would Nikon have so many cameras and so many lenses?



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The Z9 battery is a new version of the EN-EL18 that fits the D4, D5 and D6, great for the professional who only has to carry one battery type and charger. The battery drives the need for a vertical grip which then determines the overall size of the camera. The big battery should increase the number of frames per charge.

I know it happens but the black out when the mirror is raised has never bothered me, to the extent that I rarely even notice it, that may be because our eyes blank when we move them and our brains fill in the missing detail. The blackout from the mirror is usually very brief and I suspect our brains compensate, only at slower shutter speeds is there a problem.

Personally, I'd rather have a D5 than a Z9 and D5s are becoming more affordable.

   




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chrisbet wrote:
I can't understand the need for EVF - why take light, convert it to electricity and then convert it back to light?

The only advantage, if it is one, is the removal of the mirror and associated noise / vibration / wear. To be honest my 610 is fairly quiet in Q mode.

Just because we CAN do something isn't a reason we NEED to do it. But there is something built into some humans that means they always need the latest whizz bang and manufacturers play on that to make their profits - why otherwise would Nikon have so many cameras and so many lenses?

I couldn't agree more.



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