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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 11:21 |
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jk
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chrishamer wrote:
I dont think that there is a right/wrong way just what suits you best. I have multiple 105mm lenses for my Nikons. A 105mm f1.8 Ai, 105mm f2.8 Mikro VR AFS, 105mm f2.8 Mikro AFD, and the 105mm f2.8 non-Ai. I had to throw out the oldest 105mm f2.8 recently in Spain and that really upset me but it had become corroded internally and had seized so the focus would not turn. It always used to work so well. I had bought it as my first Nikon telephoto in 1973. Yes I sold my D1 to get my D1X. I still regret it but looking back the D1X was a much better camera. It had many extra features and no magenta cast. It was one of the reasons I did the project of working out how to re-cell the EN4 batteries so I could keep my D1X running along side my D2X.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 11:46 |
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GeoffR
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The updates certainly justify the waiting by those who want mirrorless but weren't entirely convinced by the Z6/Z7. With the new grip it looks a lot more suitable in terms of size but I get the impression that Nikon are marking time until an entirely new, upgraded, body comes out. I have seen rumours of a Z8 and Z9 which look impressive and more what I would want, add-on battery grips really don't do it for me, they make the camera bigger and more comfortable to use but, with a few exceptions, they look like an after thought. The MB-N11 certainly looks like an after thought, it actually sticks out on the left (from behind). I'm far from sure that Nikon know where they are going with the Z6/Z7, the Z8/Z9 looks like a finished design but the Z6/Z7 looks as though it was designed by a committee. The latest versions do appear to have been produce in response to user/potential user feedback which is good. I would still like to see a FTZ II adaptor, without the tripod socket but with a focus motor for AF lenses. A version without the focus motor would be good too, I really don't see the point of the tripod socket where there is a grip on the camera. The other design feature that I don't like is the command dial sitting on the top plate, it looks dated; it is dated they did it that way on the F90. The command and sub-command dials on the D3. D4, D5 and D6 are slanted for ergonomic reasons but those on the Z series, so far, aren't. I don't understand why, if so much research went into the alignment of the dials for the DSLRs, it has been ditched for mirrorless.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 12:17 |
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jk
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GeoffR wrote:The updates certainly justify the waiting by those who want mirrorless but weren't entirely convinced by the Z6/Z7. With the new grip it looks a lot more suitable in terms of size but I get the impression that Nikon are marking time until an entirely new, upgraded, body comes out. I never noticed the slope of the D850, D500, D3, D3S, D4, D5 command dials that you mentioned. I dont find the horizontal dials of the problem on Z7. Just shows that some things are so natural that they go unnoticed. Waiting for that FTZ II adapter as I really want to use some of my older lenses with screwdriver AF drive. The tripod foot is such a nuisance and makes it cumbersome. I cant see why a person would use the tripod foot on the FTZ rather than the camera body or lens. If it is a long telephoto then the lens is the best counterbalance point. For a lighter lens or short zoom then the body works best. Nikon seem to be making very strange design decisions these days.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 17:04 |
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jk wrote:I had to throw out the oldest 105mm f2.8 recently in Spain and that really upset me but it had become corroded internally and had seized so the focus would not turn. It always used to work so well. I had bought it as my first Nikon telephoto in 1973. Well that is where I go one step beyond in terms of keeping old equipment - I'd have dismantled and resurrected it if it was possible!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2020 03:08 |
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jk
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chrisbet wrote:Well that is where I go one step beyond in terms of keeping old equipment - I'd have dismantled and resurrected it if it was possible!  I was in Throw out or Keep mode.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2020 09:50 |
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chrishamer
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Back on topic slightly, :-P just got confirmation from Nikon that the MB-N10 will work with the Z6 II which was unclear so far, so I'm quite pleased I won't need to keep the MB-N11 if I don't like it.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2020 11:52 |
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jk
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chrishamer wrote:Back on topic slightly, :-P just got confirmation from Nikon that the MB-N10 will work with the Z6 II which was unclear so far, so I'm quite pleased I won't need to keep the MB-N11 if I don't like it. And/But the MB-N11 will NOT work with the Z7 and Z6 as the extra contacts are not there in the body.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2020 13:40 |
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chrishamer
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Yep that's the one, I'm fine with that though, I'm fine with the MB-N10
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2020 14:23 |
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GeoffR
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jk wrote:And/But the MB-N11 will NOT work with the Z7 and Z6 as the extra contacts are not there in the body. Sounds exactly the same as was the case with the F90 and the MB10, the additional shutter release only worked with the F90X. There was a repairer who would modify an F90 so that the shutter button on the MB10 worked with it. It might have been reasonable to expect Nikon to have learned from the F90/F90X experience but clearly they didn't.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2020 11:46 |
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chrishamer
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GeoffR wrote:Sounds exactly the same as was the case with the F90 and the MB10, the additional shutter release only worked with the F90X. There was a repairer who would modify an F90 so that the shutter button on the MB10 worked with it. I think this is a whole other ****up to the F90X... it's more of a case of WHY on earth the Z6 / Z7 didn't have the contacts in the grip to begin with... they've made so many lovely solutions in the past such as the style for the D300, D600 etc. The Z6 II / Z7 II both have the contacts inside the battery compartment... it was a stupid omission on the original Z6 / Z7 and seems VERY stupid to have been left out.
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